London Bridge Incident

LOAM said:
Well if a part solution isn't worth it because "the damage is done", surely there is no solution?

Its not about the USA no, although thats also part of it. The UK government sells arms to and supports governments which then support these terrorists. May said just this week that she doesn't know if we have been sending monetary aid to North Korea, read that again. We have by the way but our PM says she's unsure.
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North Korea? Wasn't that related to the starving people a few years ago? More to the point what do North Korea have to do with todays Islamic extremism, Aren't the North Koreans hooked on an our leader is a living God trip?

Freakbro said:
Selling weapons
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To who exactly? This seems off topic too me, I posted that the PM should be giving more power to the security services so they can deal with the issues in the UK, I wasn't asking for solutions I was giving one. I wasn't saying we are innocent I was accepting we have a long history of being dicks. So all the Saudi and Korean stuff isn't actually on topic for my original post.
 
Freakbro said:
Where?

Bwhahahahahahaha.....what utter utter drivel, but to be expected from you :)
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Here, I don't see your argument against it, just hysterical laughing and a dig at me

I don't RTM, as I said it was just a friendly reminder, I wouldn't want to see you suspended as reading your drivel is entertaining :)
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Like other people to do your dirty work I see. No reason to bring it up as it's simply the truth. Maybe want to laugh some more? :)
 
Ok, if it's "The Truth (TM)" you'll have no problem providing sources to prove that

Tosno said:
They [the left] are in bed with radical Islam,
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The left must reject Christianity.
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The left, by attacking Christianity, are simply clearing a space for Islam to establish itself in the space they have swept and garnished.
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So, yes, in the meantime I'll just continue to be amused by your inane drivel :) since I have no dirty work needing to be done by proxy, as I said I don't want to see you suspended, you are far too entertaining!
 
nashathedog said:
North Korea? Wasn't that related to the starving people a few years ago? More to the point what do North Korea have to do with todays Islamic extremism, Aren't the North Koreans hooked on an our leader is a living God trip?



To who exactly? This seems off topic too me, I posted that the PM should be giving more power to the security services so they can deal with the issues in the UK, I wasn't asking for solutions I was giving one. I wasn't saying we are innocent I was accepting we have a long history of being dicks. So all the Saudi and Korean stuff isn't actually on topic for my original post.
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I've given up with you sorry. If you cant see how supporting governments and states which in turn support terrorism could have an impact on atrocities on our streets then theres no point continuing. If you want a smash the door down and "round em up" solution then you are ignoring one of the sources of the issue.
 
Tosno said:
They are in bed with radical Islam, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The left must reject Christianity. Christianity tends to retreat before them. And a weakened church laces a vacuum into which Islam can move. Result? The growing power of Islam in our society, our culture, our government, our political parties and our schools, so that an essentially Atheist state pays increasing obeisance to Islam. The left, by attacking Christianity, are simply clearing a space for Islam to establish itself in the space they have swept and garnished.
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Stop trying to invoke the church behind your arguments.
 
Caracus2k said:
thought as much all virtue signalling and no substance.....
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I think you've lost track of your arguments now. It started with you declaring there to be solutions to a problem and then having to be asked twice to put something forward. It's easy to write a list of things that aren't good and throw mud at people who don't have easy answers to them.
 
Freakbro said:
Ok, if it's "The Truth (TM)" you'll have no problem providing sources to prove that







So, yes, in the meantime I'll just continue to be amused by your inane drivel :) since I have no dirty work needing to be done by proxy, as I said I don't want to see you suspended, you are far too entertaining!
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What would you personally accept as proof? So I know to keep the wiggling, interference and ad hominem's to a minimum. For example, if I quote from Real Clear Politics (very popular site with the left in the Trump thread) will you accept it? :)
 
awaybreaktoday said:
I agree close down all saudi funded mosque in the UK, I also go as far as declaring saudi as a state who funds terroism
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Some rather mixed up information in that video but still - until there is proper acknowledgement and dealing with some of those aspects instead of the mix of political sensitivity and soft approaches nothing will change in that respect. Must be frustrating for those Muslims who are able to contrast it with their experiences outside of the UK.
 
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Attacks 'not a coincidence', Russian official says
In a Facebook post, the Head of the Russian parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee blamed UK foreign policy for recent terrorist attacks.

"For the third time in recent months, Britain has become the target of terrorists, and this is no longer just a coincidence," Konstantin Kosachyov said (in Russian).

"They are hitting a country whose politics has for a long time been the most active in the region where terrorism took root, politics that many people from that region consider hostile and aggressive, worthy of retribution."
 
Caged said:
I think you've lost track of your arguments now. It started with you declaring there to be solutions to a problem and then having to be asked twice to put something forward. It's easy to write a list of things that aren't good and throw mud at people who don't have easy answers to them.
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It not a 'solution' to a 'problem' its simply just not making an existing 'problem' any worse.

Come on what's your suggestion? All are you all bluster and no substance?
 
Caracus2k said:
It not a 'solution' to a 'problem' its simply just not making an existing 'problem' any worse.

Come on what's your suggestion? All are you all bluster and no substance?
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I've said several times that I don't have a simple answer to this, but I'm also not misguided enough to believe there is one. I'm not sure how that counts as bluster.
 
Tosno said:
What would you personally accept as proof? So I know to keep the wiggling, interference and ad hominem's to a minimum. For example, if I quote from Real Clear Politics (very popular site with the left in the Trump thread) will you accept it? :)
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Please, go ahead....as long as it's not that garbage opinion piece by Peter Berkowitz ;)
 
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