Soldato
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We're in London in 2 weekends time.
Won't stop me bringing my daughter.
Won't stop me voting this Thursday.
Won't stop me doing all I had planned.
London Bridge Incident
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We're in London in 2 weekends time.
Won't stop me bringing my daughter.
Won't stop me voting this Thursday.
Won't stop me doing all I had planned.
Brave guy.
So not quite like scorzas accusation earlier that all the police ran away until the AROs got there....shameful
Absolutely
You realise we were responding to Craig81 who said:
Hopefully we don't have to have a stick fight
They will have fired as many shots as required to stop the threat. In the chaos, some will likely have missed their targets and a single 5.56mm round isn't necessarily going to be effective.
Bear in mind these are not automatic weapons, so every round fired is a squeeze of the trigger that will have been assessed.
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The government don't decide the terror alert level, it's done by the intelligence community. It's not political. The fact that we've had an attack after a downgrade shows that intelligence relies on what information comes in and this isn't complete. It's inevitable that some plots will go undetected.
I have to say I'm really struggling to grasp the old generic response attitude to this.
London is strong. We will never give in to terrorism. Our way of life won't change.
... and all the rest of it.
Until it happens again, then rinse and repeat.
That's zero comfort to me, we're now starting to face a situation where we have to fight fire with fire. Even if that means the profiling of people in potential problem areas/religions/groups. Could that make it worse? Possibly, but it's already getting worse.
"Love" will not defeat this threat, it won't do anything really. I'm not even sure of the best way to proceed, but holding hands and hoping for the best is a hopeless attitude. Admittedly it's an incredibly difficult situation - one I don't think we'll ever get a handle on.
London is strong. We will never give in to terrorism. Our way of life won't change.
... and all the rest of it.
Until it happens again, then rinse and repeat.
That's zero comfort to me, we're now starting to face a situation where we have to fight fire with fire. Even if that means the profiling of people in potential problem areas/religions/groups. Could that make it worse? Possibly, but it's already getting worse.
"Love" will not defeat this threat, it won't do anything really. I'm not even sure of the best way to proceed, but holding hands and hoping for the best is a hopeless attitude. Admittedly it's an incredibly difficult situation - one I don't think we'll ever get a handle on.
I'll be going through Waterloo, and I'll still be out on the South Bank at lunchtime. What else am I meant to do?
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Carry on as normal. Can't let these bar stewards change the way we live our lives. That's the ultimate victory for them, other than the IS flag flying over Downing Street.
Same. Into Waterloo. Then on the tube through LB and out to Canary Wharf. Three prime targets; a mainline station, the underground and a large financial centre.
I won't change my way of life.
On another matter though we should stop all immigration from certain countries. I appreciate the recent terrorists have been home grown but that's still no reason to bring in more and more people from a radically different culture. We are at war and have to start toughening up.
That can't be right as scorza said the police ran away as cowards ???????? Still waiting for scorza proof though........
We have thrown quite a bit of fire around already, there are 200,000 confirmed civilian casualties in iraq (lets ignore Libya/Syria etc) and just in the month of June the London attack is ranked 2 places below the Islamic State attack in Diyala in the ongoing Iraq Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_June_2017
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Now isn't the time to make knee jerk decisions. Scared people don't make good decisions.
The issues are closer to home, we can drop all the bombs we like on the Middle East and short of causing absolutely massive damage it won't make a lot of difference.
The people making the decisions shouldn't be scared, they need to be calculated and methodical and think of a way to try and solve this issue. I'm sure they are, and I hope it'll be good enough, but it probably won't be.
The first brave policeman on the scene was armed with a stick (baton) , faced with some Islamic brainwashed nutter wearing a suicide vest okay it was fake but he didn't know that and he was also carrying a ******* Bowie knife by all accounts.
all our cops should be routinely armed with a side arm as they are in places like Denmark and Germany.
all our cops should be routinely armed with a side arm as they are in places like Denmark and Germany.
Glad you've put so much effort into thinking about the lives of hundreds of thousands of Civilians, would read again.
I don't disagree with the notion that statements of 'we will be strong' are, by thenselves not conductive to anything...but I do disagree that 'love' (and by that, I actually mean 'compassion') can't make a difference. See below - particularly in bold.
By suggesting we don't drop more bombs? We shouldn't be dropping bombs on innocent people anyway.
Apologies if that was your suggestion, I read
differently to the above.