London Bridge Incident
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Noting I posted suggests I assume dead civilians would support Saddam.
Obviously the dead support no one!
However family's of people who believe you are responsible for their children's/parent's deaths, typically aren't likely to side with you.
As I said to the other simplistic "Black and White" poster, posting about a country now in the middle of a full on Civil War against ISIS and following on from an intervention that the Lancet suggested claimed 600,000 lives within 3 years, we can wax lyrical about the importance of removing an evil dictator in Iraq, from our (relatively) safe European homes, but statistically it doesn't look like the beacon state the public were promised, from the evidence available!
IS had roots in al Qaeda and some of the reason for what IS has done is due to rivalry and contention between the two - with al Qaeda denigrating them and tormenting them into doing things.
clearly referring to when they were alive
though as you brought it up, why would you assume the families would support Saddam? Or oppose his removal?
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Whine that muslims dont do anything to denounce these terror attacks. Shed loads of muslims denounce terror attacks, moans it wont do anything.
Clearly the majority of the Muslim faith denounces terror attacks.
Clearly the majority of the Muslim faith denounces terror attacks.
Source?
I haven't said anything like that, but keep posting in Black and White if it suits you.
I'm saying all things being equal, if you lived in a country with an evil dictator and even hated them and what they stand for, then they are deposed but things don't get better, perhaps some family are killed due to a seemingly never ending war, which turns into a full Civil War, I'm not convinced you wouldn't prefer the old regime.
I'd at least have a hard time telling those people with dead loved ones they are wrong for thinking like that.
Frankly that it is even debatable which period was more dangerous / risky for the average citizen in Iraq is an utter failure for the unilateral action of Bush and Blair and a betrayal of us as citizens in the countries involved and widely predicted outcome/criticism of their chosen course of action!
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Ruh Roh.
You're always posting crap links, do you not have one?
yet I don't think there is any evidence to show that that is the case, that they'd be happier to have Saddam in power still, the majority of Iraqis opposed him and supported his removal
sure obviously they're probably not too happy about the civil war either but that is, in large part, down to Iraqis themselves
Judging by a recent article looks like the US has pretty much given Saudi Arabia, etc. the impression they will be hands off in respect to Qatar - hence probably why this has happened now so will be interesting to see what happens - especially when it appears our own interests in them run into the tune of billions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar–United_Kingdom_relations
It could actually have a pretty big impact on us at this time so I wonder what the US agenda is - potentially with Brexit it could propel us even more towards the US trade, etc. wise :s
Do you have any common sense ??
Considering you are like over 100X more likely to be killed by ISIS/Islamic extremist if YOU are a Muslim it doesn't really take a genius to work out that normal peaceful Muslims aren't too friendly/happy with them
So it's O.K now on OC's to post hate speech and calls for violence/genocide against normal peaceful Muslims ??
The idiot in that video is an embarrassment to this country, as are the muppets that agree with his sweeping call for violence !!
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I bet he'll be arrested inside the hour.
What an idiot - the police will likely now raid him, inexplicably take away his computers for some random reason while leaving the swords all the while walking back and forth past his neighbour who is hanging an IS flag out the window.
When you live in a country where there are 600,000 dead in 3 years and 200,000 confirmed dead civilians in a never ending Civil War, do remember to be "not too happy" and blame yourselves, not the countries dropping the bombs unilaterally.
It isn't funny and I fully agree with moving on where possible, but for a moment accept that we should consider the above facts makes our leaders of the time this guy:
Except worse because like you, they wont even say the words!
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If I had to choose who to be best mates with, America or Europe, I’d choose America hands down right now. We're closer to America culturally and ideologically, and I have a bad feeling about Europe.
Edit: Doesn't mean we have to get involved with their wars obvs.
you keep banging on about X number dead etc.. but the point made by the other poster was pretty fair re: most of these people not wanting their respective dictators back... pointing out that relatives of dead people might be angry is rather obvious, it isn't however a logical conclusion that they'd somehow want a dictator back or particularly relevant to the original point being made. Also I'm not sure why you're attributing this to bombs being dropped, plenty of casualties will have come from various infighting/sectarian violence.
Do you have any common sense ??
Considering you are like over 100X more likely to be killed by ISIS/Islamic extremist if YOU are a Muslim it doesn't really take a genius to work out that normal peaceful Muslims aren't too friendly/happy with them
Isis aren't the only islamists.