London Bridge Incident

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Do you have any common sense ??

Considering you are like over 100X more likely to be killed by ISIS/Islamic extremist if YOU are a Muslim it doesn't really take a genius to work out that normal peaceful Muslims aren't too friendly/happy with them :rolleyes:
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It's not worth arguing with Dis86 on such matters. He's a smart chap in many ways but when it comes for asking for "sources" he will only believe it if it's in a newspaper somewhere. Which is understandable but not ingenious.

Dis86 I sometimes go to mosques even though I am not muslim. The Message being preached has ALWAYS been one of peace. You don't need a source for this. You simply need to walk into a mosque.
 
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asim18 said:
It's not worth arguing with Dis86 on such matters. He's a smart chap in many ways but when it comes for asking for "sources" he will only believe it if it's in a newspaper somewhere. Which is understandable but not ingenious.

Dis86 I sometimes go to mosques even though I am not muslim. The Message being preached has ALWAYS been one of peace. You don't need a source for this. You simply need to walk into a mosque.
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Too many people read about extremism and think it is the norm amongst Muslims, then you get these attacks and there views are confirmed as truth in there mind.

Actually going to mosques is a good idea, hell pretend to be a Muslim and sit down on Friday for the jummah prayer.

It is a Muslim problem but it really is only a small amount of people in this country.

Tougher laws need to be introduced especially for those on the watchlist.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
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I know, that's why I said ISIS/Islamic extremists!
All of which are a 100X more of a threat to OTHER Muslims
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Yeah but then where does the funding come from? The support networks?

To say they don't have support is utter balls. Look at the groups that have come before and will no doubt come after. They get their recruits from the moderates and turn them in to the extremists. Nobody is born a jihadi.
For every 1 that becomes 1 how many share the belief but don't have the stones to go the final step?
 
B&W said:
Too many people read about extremism and think it is the norm amongst Muslims, then you get these attacks and there views are confirmed as truth in there mind.

Actually going to mosques is a good idea, hell pretend to be a Muslim and sit down on Friday for the jummah prayer.

It is a Muslim problem but it really is only a small amount of people in this country.

Tougher laws need to be introduced especially for those on the watchlist.
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Why on earth would I step into a building, which the basis of it is because of mohammed, and support of this person?
 
A whole load of speculation clearly veneered with a thick layer of blatant Muslim hatred and prejudice :rolleyes:

Most Muslims in the UK are in agreement with our great Major of London Sadiq Khan, who himself is a great beacon of Muslim integration and multiculturalism
 
PapaLazaru said:
Enlightenment probably.
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Sa'd passed an execution sentence against the Qurayza and 600-900 Qurayza men were beheaded (except for the few who chose to convert to Islam), all women and children enslaved, and their properties confiscate.

That's like saying go to support Jimmy Saville and Hitler, they were an allright blokes.

No, you don't go to places where the basis of the creation of that group, is from a person like mohammed.

There are millions of people on this planet who are better morally and ethically than mohammed. Go to any hospital or animal hospital, and pick out any Nurse or vet, and they are a better person.
 
hornetstinger said:
Sa'd passed an execution sentence against the Qurayza and 600-900 Qurayza men were beheaded (except for the few who chose to convert to Islam), all women and children enslaved, and their properties confiscate.

That's like saying go to support Jimmy Saville and Hitler, they were an allright blokes.

No, you don't go to places where the basis of the creation of that group, is from a person like mohammed.

There are millions of people on this planet who are better morally and ethically than mohammed. Go to any hospital or animal hospital, and pick out any Nurse or vet, and they are a better person.
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Mega lols, you're trying to administer modern day ethics to 1200-1400 years ago?

I dont disagree that ancient Islam was utter *****, but dont do this.
 
asim18 said:
The Message being preached has ALWAYS been one of peace. You don't need a source for this. You simply need to walk into a mosque.
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You are hardly likely to walk into a mosque anywhere in the UK and met with the preaching of hate even if it was going on within that mosque.
 
hornetstinger said:
Sa'd passed an execution sentence against the Qurayza and 600-900 Qurayza men were beheaded (except for the few who chose to convert to Islam), all women and children enslaved, and their properties confiscate.

That's like saying go to support Jimmy Saville and Hitler, they were an allright blokes.

No, you don't go to places where the basis of the creation of that group, is from a person like mohammed.

There are millions of people on this planet who are better morally and ethically than mohammed. Go to any hospital or animal hospital, and pick out any Nurse or vet, and they are a better person.
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“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
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R. Dawkins


See, we can play that silly game with most religions out there :rolleyes:
 
hornetstinger said:
Why on earth would I step into a building, which the basis of it is because of mohammed, and support of this person?
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Carry on reading daily mail and other websites to learn about Muslims then.

I don't know if all this hatred is recent though.

When I went to secondary school and primary I was called a few racist insults.

Had to fight the idiots to stop it.

Sometimes if you go to certain parts of England with few minorities, they'll look at you like your an alien and then swear.

And this was before these attacks, occasions like this these people come out brazenly.

But it's not for a righteous reason, it's because deep down there **** and sometimes nothing can change that.
 
hornetstinger said:
Sa'd passed an execution sentence against the Qurayza and 600-900 Qurayza men were beheaded (except for the few who chose to convert to Islam), all women and children enslaved, and their properties confiscate.

That's like saying go to support Jimmy Saville and Hitler, they were an allright blokes.

No, you don't go to places where the basis of the creation of that group, is from a person like mohammed.

There are millions of people on this planet who are better morally and ethically than mohammed. Go to any hospital or animal hospital, and pick out any Nurse or vet, and they are a better person.
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There is history and then there is religion, I think you need to differentiate between the two unless you think Jesus really did walk on water.
 
StriderX said:
Mega lols, you're trying to administer modern day ethics to 1200-1400 years ago?

I dont disagree that ancient Islam was utter *****, but dont do this.
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Doesn't matter, mohammed way of life is to be for all time, he is the most perfect man to follow, that is what muslims strive to be.

Have you killed hundreds of jews, put women into slavery? No. Well you're a better man than Mohammed.

So where the millions of people back then who didn't kill hundreds of people. For example, there was a farmer who lived 1500 years ago, who lived a simple life, and died never hurting anyone. That is a better person than mohammed.
 
B&W said:
Carry on reading daily mail and other websites to learn about Muslims then.

I don't know if all this hatred is recent though.

When I went to secondary school and primary I was called a few racist insults.

Had to fight the idiots to stop it.

Sometimes if you go to certain parts of England with few minorities, they'll look at you like your an alien and then swear.

And this was before these attacks, occasions like this these people come out brazenly.

But it's not for a righteous reason, it's because deep down there **** and sometimes nothing can change that.
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Ironic given what your recent suspension was for...
 
B&W said:
Thanks for changing the subject, I'll let you know though that it was not me who started the insult.

I'll fight fire with fire unfortunately.
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You can hardly complain about someone being a racist when you're one yourself and clearly by your own admission.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
A whole load of speculation clearly veneered with a thick layer of blatant Muslim hatred and prejudice :rolleyes:

Most Muslims in the UK are in agreement with our great Major of London Sadiq Khan, who himself is a great beacon of Muslim integration and multiculturalism
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Come on dude, you've got one job, just don't kill people!
 
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