London violence reaching epidemic proportions

ttaskmaster said:
"she accidentally opened fire as she passed Jemmott his Glock service revolver"

Yeah, complete ******** article. I doubt anything they say in it is true.
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To be fair to the DM, they tend not to report untruths as such.

It's the spin on things that makes their articles so ludicrous.
 
Lysander said:
To be fair to the DM, they tend not to report untruths as such.

It's the spin on things that makes their articles so ludicrous.
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Indeed, I once saw a headline where somebody famous had been found on a train with a bag of white powder which may have been cocaine. It might have been a bag of flour. There was no evidence or statement of fact from the police but the DM put their spin on it that it might have been cocaine. People will remember that person x was caught with cocaine and will never see the article, if its mentioned anywhere again, that he was let off with no charge as it was just flour and he was a keen baker.
 
Greebo said:
Indeed, I once saw a headline where somebody famous had been found on a train with a bag of white powder which may have been cocaine. It might have been a bag of flour. There was no evidence or statement of fact from the police but the DM put their spin on it that it might have been cocaine. People will remember that person x was caught with cocaine and will never see the article, if its mentioned anywhere again, that he was let off with no charge as it was just flour and he was a keen baker.
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That happens all of the time in corporate mainstream media and with far bigger stories and to this day people still don't know the truth. For example Nicholas Sandmann is now a multimillionaire after suing most of the media but if you showed his picture to most people who follow corporate media they'd probably still think of him as "that racist Trump supporter".

Another example:
Media Forced to Retract Reporting on Giuliani Connections to Russia
https://www.westernjournal.com/media-forced-retract-reporting-giuliani-connections-russia/
 
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Lots of this is cultural, not all cultures are equal! We already had our homegrown chav population then we imported various other groups a few decades ago, experiences may vary... for example you're perhaps going to get far fewer issues with middle-class Indians (probably better in this respect, as a group, than the white British population) than lower-class Bangladeshis etc.. There have been plenty of issues with gang violence among people of Caribbean origin too.

Re: modern-day immigration I suspect that extending British National Overseas passports to Hong Kong Chinese people isn't going to result in a problem community re: criminality (that's largely cultural, in fact you could probably bring over poor people from mainland China and you'd have way fewer issues than you'd get with say poor white British people) whereas if we don't efficiently deal with/reject say migrants from the likes of Somalia or indeed various poor African migrants trying to get across the med, through Europe and across the channel then we perhaps will have issues with those groups.

Part of it is poverty and education or lack of but part of it is very much cultural too. We need to be more careful re: who we let in, Jamaican graduates etc..? Sure, mass immigration from Jamaica? Massive nope!

Points-based systems etc.. should deal with lots of potential newly imported issues, illegal immigration asylum seekers can potentially undermine things though.

As for our existing problem groups, various urban youths whether white chavs, or Pakistanis/Bangladeshis, or Afro-Caribbean youths (who are disproportionately a very big problem when it comes to this sort of crime) that's going to require things along the lines of what Burnsey has suggested plus perhaps more emphasis on contraception, birth control etc.. single-parent households can have a big impact here too.
 
sigma said:
There should be a dedicated thread for all the herpderps to circlejerk in. Having said that, I guess that’s what GD is?

Good point about being sucked in...
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That's what the comments section on the daily fail is for ;)
 
Loved one of the comments in the BBC article about the shooting in Brixton. Guy took no notice of the gun shot sounds at first because there's always noises like that :cry:
 
Lysander said:
Why stop there? Just pen everyone together like in The Black Hole of Calcutta or Kowloon's Walled City and get us monitored by flying sentry drones.
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you do know that the black hole of calcutta is not referencing an urban area / neighborhood and that it was a dungeon / prison ?? Because the way you reference it against Kowloon's walled city doesn't make any sense as the walled city was just a massive overpopulated encalve (more likely similar to somewhere in modern history like Gaza). So referencing the black hole of calcutta as a densely populated urban area of the city of calcutta is factually incorrect.
 
Just a couple of badman running around half naked with machetes enjoying the sunshine. Nothing to worry about. Part and parcel.
 
wildman said:
you do know that the black hole of calcutta is not referencing an urban area / neighborhood and that it was a dungeon / prison ?? Because the way you reference it against Kowloon's walled city doesn't make any sense as the walled city was just a massive overpopulated encalve (more likely similar to somewhere in modern history like Gaza). So referencing the black hole of calcutta as a densely populated urban area of the city of calcutta is factually incorrect.
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I know exactly what it was, I studied it in history. The comment was meant to be amusing :) Though one can draw obvious parallels between an overcrowded dungeon and an overpopulated walled city.
 
rare said:
Just a couple of badman running around half naked with machetes enjoying the sunshine. Nothing to worry about. Part and parcel.
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Careful, that line is like catnip for the perpetually offended who will come in here to vent about the very fact this thread is even allowed to exist and people can have opinions they don't agree with... (I presume from some of the deletions that that has already happened here.)

But yes it is a bit ridiculous that in some parts of London it's almost accepted that there will be some youths being violent with knives etc.. albeit it can be a hypersensitive issue if some obvious truths are highlighted.
 
Nearly 1,000 people have been arrested and more than 400 knives seized in an effort to reduce violent crime in London, police have said.

Between 26 April and 2 May, as part of Operation Sceptre, Metropolitan Police officers working across the country recovered 411 knives and 166 other weapons using weapons sweeps and targeted patrols - and made 994 arrests.

London recorded the highest rate of knife crime in the country in 2019-20, with 179 offences involving a knife per 100,000 people, according to a House of Commons briefing paper published in October.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.s...crackdown-on-violent-crime-in-london-12303220


I feel safer now
 
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