London violence reaching epidemic proportions

And the replies of '...but white people' are also by a handful of posters. Each side is just as blinkered.

How am I blinkered that people on here have an issue with the skin colour of others? Do you think racists and xenophobes don’t exist?
 
There was the whole NYE mass groping thing in Germany too for example. Problem is plenty of these migrants are disproportionately young men and really there are economic goals here. Young single men have plenty of potential for social unrest and realistically plenty of them won't find it easy to find partners etc... language and cultural barriers, low status, low income etc.. so yeah, they'll get angry.
volunteers got raped in refugee camps in germany too
 
How am I blinkered that people on here have an issue with the skin colour of others? Do you think racists and xenophobes don’t exist?

Because every single thread somebody like you chirps in with some deflection about white people. Young black men are disproportionately involved in violent crime in London so why deflect all the time?
 
Because every single thread somebody like you chirps in with some deflection about white people. Young black men are disproportionately involved in violent crime in London so why deflect all the time?

Where have I deflected? I simply choose not to fall for headlines. Do you really think an epidemic of knife crime took place in the news story? Where have I said that knife crime isn’t a problem?

You actually didn’t answer my questions, yet you have the nerve to talk about deflection, lul. You’ve done exactly what you accuse others of!

The reason I call out racists is because I’ve been on the receiving end of the remarks often dished out by these people and it’s not exactly a nice experience.
 
some people are mental I grew up with a guy who was insane.

Quiet lad until about 13, his father used to force him to settle any differences with other kids in a fight on his garden lawn..

the guy ended up getting really good at fighting but violence was always his answer.

He ended up in the same school as me when he was 14, went up to the roughest kid in school and offered to fight them...

seemed he had a big reputation for fighting, he ended up whacking a teacher and getting expelled and schooled at home.

from 15 he had no problem fighting adults even rough looking chavs...

When he was about 17 I went with him to meet his GF at a bus stop, she was 30mins late and he asked me if he should punch her.....

then when she arrives he tells her the only reason he isn't going to hit her is because I said he shouldn;t .....

I was just thinking holy crap this guy is proper mental these days... and felt sorry for his GF she must have been embarrassed but put up with him so her fault..

he ended up breaking he dads jaw not long after.

I got the hell out of Nottingham and never looked back, all my friends were criminals from an early age.

I think I was arrested 3 times but could be more before I even turned 16.
criminal damage, TWOC and commercial burglary.

never committed a crime since, most my old friends are still in the news for drugs/shootings/theft etc (every few years I'll google their names and see theyre still in and out of prison)
One was in the national papers about 5 years ago for shooting someones house with a shotgun/pistol cos they owned him money for drugs... I think he was the youngest person to ever get an ASBO or he first person to ever get one I forget which

No one ever carried knives around back then although I knew a few people who would carry screw drivers around mainly for stealing but I doubt they would have had any problem stabbing someone

What was the colour of his skin?
 
Because every single thread somebody like you chirps in with some deflection about white people. Young black men are disproportionately involved in violent crime in London so why deflect all the time?

While contrarian points are probably unhelpful, discussing the entire spectrum of an issue shouldn't be dismissed just because some of it might be uncomfortable.
 
More black police, harsher penalties for having knives without explanation and more community engagement with ex-gangsters used as examples.

There problem solved.

Maybe have some successful black people used as examples too? Only having people who say "Look at me, I used to be a gangster, now I'm not" isn't they best way imo.
 
This isn't specifically about race, its about a situation being in the capital where gangs feel comfortable to bring out long knifes and machetes in broad daylight, in Hyde Park in front if families, children etc.

It has gone on for long enough and we need to reflect on how we can end this mindless violence now.
 
This isn't specifically about race, its about a situation being in the capital where gangs feel comfortable to bring out long knifes and machetes in broad daylight, in Hyde Park in front if families, children etc.

It has gone on for long enough and we need to reflect on how we can end this mindless violence now.
All your posts are about race aren't they.
 
Where have I deflected? I simply choose not to fall for headlines. Do you really think an epidemic of knife crime took place in the news story? Where have I said that knife crime isn’t a problem?

You actually didn’t answer my questions, yet you have the nerve to talk about deflection, lul. You’ve done exactly what you accuse others of!

The reason I call out racists is because I’ve been on the receiving end of the remarks often dished out by these people and it’s not exactly a nice experience.

To be fair your question was stupid. Of course racism exists. But linking to news articles or stating facts is not racist.

Epidemic of knife crime? No, it is worse. Knife crime is clearly endemic amongst certain communities(gangs) in innercities in this country.
 
What was the colour of his skin?
White.

most of the Area I lived in was white , I think there was only about 5 black people in my friend circle of about 20
probably 70% of drug dealers were black but they were mostly quiet people just earning a living and not committing other crimes

I think almost all the fences were white guys in their 40s and 50s, not many drug dealers would take stolen goods.

Poverty is what leads to crime and drugs, it doesn't matter what colour your skin is, if you grow up in the wrong area there's an extremely high chance you will end up just like everyone else in that area.
committing crime from a young age, taking drugs etc and probably trapped in a cycle.

You could blame the parents but they have an almost impossible job
 
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Maybe have some successful black people used as examples too? Only having people who say "Look at me, I used to be a gangster, now I'm not" isn't they best way imo.

Worked in Glasgow.

But yes, successful people engaging would be beneficial. What I mean with ex-gangsters is that you take them along to the hospital post-stabbing and perhaps the perpetrator of said stabbing to show both of them the outcome of their behaviour.
 
To be fair your question was stupid. Of course racism exists. But linking to news articles or stating facts is not racist.

Epidemic of knife crime? No, it is worse. Knife crime is clearly endemic amongst certain communities(gangs) in innercities in this country.

Well, I’ll leave it you to interpret whether or not the person who posted this thread is racist or xenophobic... have a look at their posting history, lol.

On your latter point I don’t disagree. However a click bait article doesn’t prove this point. This is the point that is missed.

You still haven’t answered where I deflected. Anyway, I’ll leave you to it.
 
lol. Maybe I was a catalyst? Serious answer was I moved 100 miles away so no idea if the murders kept up in the years after. certainly at the time, it was the murder area of the UK, more than parts of London.

Does anyone know the best way to search for clusters of murders located 100 miles from Nottingham?

:D
 
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