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The rates per head of population are available. London sits highest I believe.
London violence reaching epidemic proportions
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The rates per head of population are available. London sits highest I believe.
Obviously he is saying its not just a London issue. Knife crime is on the up everywhere.
The figures are adjusted for population, per 100000 of population London has the highest knife crime rate in the country.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/
Soldato
While it's gang on gang, nobody gives a toss.
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Nice find.
Nobody cares when it’s a lady and child being killed either.
‘Just another stabbing’
‘Mental health issues’
‘Not London focused’
Commissario
I think what he's stating is that when you hear about London crimes you're always going to get more press than say Manchester crimes simply because of the number of people.
Even if the crime rate in London was lower than average you'd hear more about it because its by far our biggest city, and the one where most of the press and news companies have primary bases so they're able to cover things in far more detail.
My dad grew up in Newcastle just after the war, and from what he's said it wasn't at all uncommon for there to be a fair bit of knife crime, let alone the likes of the "mods and rockers" of the 60's...
Oddly people who like to push the idea that London is a hell hole and at record high levels tend not to be aware of how much knife crime there was going back even 30 years, let alone 60 years before modern reporting and easy access to news from outside your (very) local area. It's like a lot of crimes, you hear about stuff easily these days that 20-30 years ago you'd maybe have heard a mention of on the radio, and 40-50 years ago unless you were in the same town it was unlikely to have even made it into the papers.
And of course there is going to be an increase in reported and recorded knife crime in the last 30 years, they've cracked down massively on it and created new offences so things that 40 years ago wouldn't have raised an eyebrow now get reported, and things that 30 years ago would likely have gotten you a word in the ear get you prosecuted.
I remember when it was possible as a 10 year old to go into a store at the seaside and buy a knife*, now you can't even buy a bics razor for yourself until you're 18 (with ID to prove it, or about 30 without
), and they increased both the number of offences that are included in reported knife crimes, and how many of them got automatically prosecuted (pretty much any offence).Hell I remember buying Stanley knife style blades for my dad in my early teens, these days as a teen you can run into issues buying plastic cutlery.
*I think I still have the scar on my thumb from that pen knife.
Very good point. I bought a large pen knife (might even hav been a flick knife?) from my local sweet shop as a boy in the 1970's. I can't even remember why I bought it; probably used it digging in the garden playing with my Action Man or something. I think it just looked cool and I wanted it.
I bought nunchuks from some martial arts shop when I was 16 in the 90s.
I'm going to guess you could buy BB guns well under 18 back then also, since the law changed in 2007
That reminds me. My brother had nunchucks too as a teenager. He also had a crossbow and would practice it in a back alley - although I think that may have been illegal!
Soldato
If you're referring to the recent incident, wasn't the culprit swiftly identified?
I live in that **** hole. It's really not. It's actually for zone two of London pretty quiet, lots of parkland and riverfront. Everyone around here is shocked at what happened and it's not the norm. Never not felt safe walking home.
There is however more and more development of high density flats being built (400k+ for one bed, so not cheap) so it seems inevitably you get trouble makers coming in selling their stuff to people living here. Get more than one group and there's a recipe for trouble.
There's also the issue where a % of new builds have to be social housing. That's fine but a % of that can go to council and they sometimes move problem families in. Combine that with developers locating their whole % of social housing in one or two blocks you might get a hotspot for trouble. By trouble we're normally talking parties going on a bit too long, not knife fights in the street!
Yeah, a white dude, which means forum regulars have no reason to froth about it and the mods don’t want people to talk about anything other than the London BLOOD SHED EPIDEMIC.
Shrug shoulders and carry on... until the next non-white stabbing.
If you go back two pages I posted in outrage at the lax sentencing of a white man for attacking another person.
So you can go bsck into your shell now.
Well done, what an achievement!
Soldato
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Hey you go can't go around raising valid concerns about the behaviours of certain groups based of abstract things like crime statistics. Dats wacist!
This thread basically.
This thread basically.
derp
I'm a bit lost as to what you're annoyed about. Is it because some people are implying that only blacks/Muslim fundamentalists commit knife crimes or something like that? I don't quite understand.