Louis Van Gone / Jose Mourinho set to be announced as Man Utd manager this week - BBC
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Some of our youngsters could probably do with loans to get a season of football under their belt. I'm not convinced CBJ or Fosu Mensah are ready for first team football yet. We really need to do something with with Pereira as well, maybe a loan would be good for him.
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Maybe true but think back to when he was appointed. He had just guided a underperformaning Holland to third place and destroyed the holders 5-1. He almost won the treble as well with Bayern a few years before and look what happened.
Jose's past year has been terrible who is to say the same will not happen again. Now he has some of the best managers in the world in the same league as him. He is actually coming into a Man Utd team in a worse position as a manager than louis did. He has a lot to prove that is for sure.
Louis is right to question fans saying they are delusional with targets for the team. the premier league is getting so competitive now that you can not expect teams to dominate like the big four of past. Those days are long gone. I can see the top 4 not being a done and dusted deal for the foreseeable future. I mean you have ranieri at LC and Benitez managing a championship side. People would have called me crazy 10 years ago.
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What do you mean worse position, utd were 7th after Moyes / Giggs were they not?
Income is better there fore ( hopefully) transfer kitty isnt exactly limited
Also Utd still have very promising players that can be utilized, Smalling, Shaw, Darmien?, Martial amd Rashford just to name a few that have come in during / since that summer ( given consistent games I would include Herrera with that as well but might be a? like Darmien) - and thats not including Ddg who was already ******** good
Edit - I included smalling because he has improved immeasurable in the last two seasons, even though he was already part of the team
Playing style is terrible but that can be changed over the pre-season relatively easily
Persoanlly would say Mourinho is inheriting far better players than LvG came into
You are also not allowing for Mourinho knowing the epl like the back of his hand where as LvG had no experience of it, hadnt managed a club team for a number of years - whixh is completely different to a national team in its requirements and only knew Blind as a player ( Im sure Mourinho knows a lot of Utds players pretty well from the team analysis data that Chelsea undoubtedly did in the past)
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He means as a manager - LVG came in on the back of the excellent WC run, Mourinho has been out of management since last year when his players basically revolted against him.
Even if Mourinho only lasts a couple of years, so be it. There's almost zero chance of United unearthing another SAF - the football landscape has changed so much in the last 20-30 years and managers just don't last.
It's something we just have to deal with.
Even if Mourinho only lasts a couple of years, so be it. There's almost zero chance of United unearthing another SAF - the football landscape has changed so much in the last 20-30 years and managers just don't last.
It's something we just have to deal with.
Managing a national team is completely different imo so if anything Mourinho is still in a better position
Mot sure if its just the media or has fact behind it, but the end of 2015 wasnt the only time in the last few years where the Chelsea dressing room revolted, its happened once or twice before.......
( and just to be fair, itcwas reported that Utd's dresing room revolted against LvG also in the end)
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03w2fwd
Interesting discussion about the Mourinho situation, i don't agree with a lot of the things being said but there's also some valid points.
Interesting discussion about the Mourinho situation, i don't agree with a lot of the things being said but there's also some valid points.
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I think one of Mourinho's first big jobs, will be to get memphis playing often and give him the opportunity to develop some confidence. I personally think the guy has huge potential, but hasn't been given anywhere enough time by LVG. I think Luke Shaw coming back will really help him; they seemed to form a partnership and friendship very quickly before Shaw got injured. On that note, that will make a huge difference I think. He was brilliant for the first few games of last season...
Soon we'll see Mourinho's starting line-up articles
DDG
darmian, Smalling, Laporte, Shaw
Pogba, Schneiderlin,
Bale, Zidane, Ronaldo,
Benzema
Wut?
Soon we'll see Mourinho's starting line-up articles
DDG
darmian, Smalling, Laporte, Shaw
Pogba, Schneiderlin,
Bale, Zidane, Ronaldo,
Benzema
Wut?
They are about to become Mendes United. That man is about to become even richerI'm sure he has a list of his players ready to send Uniteds way for a discount with tesco clubcard vouchers.
Mendes didn't need Mourinho to make £m's out of Utd in the past. Remember Bebe?
By plenty you mean hardly anyone? The vast majority of our fans wanted LvG gone. Mourinho may not have been everyone's first choice as a replacement, but you can't argue he isn't the safest bet of all available managers.
With all due respect your first team as it stands today is nothing to write home about, you've finished 5th on goal difference and I dare say it would be more like mid table without De Gea in goal. Moyes wasted a lot of your resources, gave a long contract to a player who should have been sent packing for the good of the team and lost other key players who were part of your success years.
Van Gaal has brought through several youth players whilst winning the FA Cup and only narrowly missing out on his league target, whilst he may never change his philosophy you can't expect him to have the team playing like Real Madrid or Barcelona at this stage, however it's quite conceivable that as the current team bond/improve and new signings (competent defenders) are made and Rooney shipped out the football might also improve.
It's good to see United brought back down to the earth though, I remember when Moyes was appointed all of the stuff about being a special club/special fans who give managers time and don't sack them after each season... reality is now hitting home that they're just like every other club and the only thing that keeps a manager in his job is success.
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Actually they have been two of the least classy sackings I have seen in a long time. I guess they don't have much experience of it. Moyes was handled badly and as much as LVG deserved to go earlier he didn't deserve the treatment and lack of respect he's been given the last few weeks.
I'm sure when Jose gets the sack in the next 18 months the practice should at least have helped them tell him first.
Rooney won't be going anywhere under Jose.
You're kidding? Fellaini is just about as Mourinho as a player could be.
Is he though? Mourinho likes dynamic, quick and capable players. Who is he like in any of Mourinhos recent squads?
Fellaini has none of the qualities Mourinho looks for in a player.
Can people also explain how United have handled both Moyes and LvGs sacking so badly. The media have been circling his corpse for months. They knew the minimum requirement for him with 4th and he failed. They knew he wasn't going to be sacked before the FA Cup Final. They knew the fans wanted him gone. They were 99% sure he wouldn't be here next summer.
Did Woodward tell the media that he was sacked before LvG knew? I don't understand quite how United mishandled this. Yes it could have been done in a better manner but most of it came from the media.
Lets not ignore the fact that the media have "sacked" him a number of times over the past season. In face the exact same stories came out in Dec, Jan and Feb. LvG to be sacked this week and Mourinho to take over. Just because they were correct this time doesn't mean the club is the blame.
I don't really think he is...