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Toughest thing will always be finding a team stupid enough to buy him
Louis Van Gone / Jose Mourinho set to be announced as Man Utd manager this week - BBC
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Robbo and I both suggested the other day that it was Mendes who potentially leaked it
At the end of the day what could Utd do with the FA Cup still to win - you would hope that any manager would be professional enough to want to win it after being notified that he would be sacked, but you dont know for sure.
The other thing is - imagine the hoo-la if Utd had lost and then found out that LvG had been told before the game, Im SURE the press would all be saying how stupid the club was for telling him before the game was played.
LvG has also been saying all season that top 4 was bare minimum, the team got 5th place so he must have known it was coming either way.
The way it came out was bad / terrible, no question - but the club was also between a rock and a hard place. The media being so effective /intrusive however you want to say it makes it nigh on impossible (without putting the game at risk) of the club doing it the right way.
From that aspect (and a few others) it would have been easier to sack him in December and risk a lot less
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Serie A might be a viable route - but wages will be a problem (but I think if Utd have to cover them I think he only has a year left anyway)
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Fellaini isn't a Mourinho player. Someone who I would love United to sign who fits the Mourinho mould is Kante. He'd be a far better DM than we've got at the moment. It will be interesting to see what Mourinho does with Depay, whether he gives him a chance or gets rid of him straight away. One thing is for sure, if Depay isn't willing to put the work in then he'll be gone, Jose wants players who give everything both defensively and going forward. I think he'll look to add more height to this United team as well. We are worryingly vulnerable to set pieces and crosses because of our lack of height and that was very evident at times this season (West Ham away for example).
For that reason I wouldn't be surprised to see Jose look to replace Blind at CB, despite the fact he's had a pretty good season.
For that reason I wouldn't be surprised to see Jose look to replace Blind at CB, despite the fact he's had a pretty good season.
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Blind has done well considering the new position but I'd rather see him moved back to a midfield role
same here - even though Im not at all sure he is physically imposing enough for the EPL to be a good DM either, I suppose as part of a pair he would be ok
He certainly reads the game well majority of the time (shocking in a few games recently, but given how many games he played will put that down to being the end of a long season).
Oh he is. First of this is not a criticism - Mourinho has and always will use players like Fellaini in whatever position he feels is best to either counter the oppositions threat or expose their weakness. Just like he'd play Pepe in midfield for Real (and Zouma at Chelsea in the same way) or play somebody like Ramires as a right winger. First time around at Chelsea he'd have no problems throwing Robert Huth on up front too. He uses players in certain positions if they have a particular strength that is useful for that particular game, regardless of whether that's their position or not.
He also loves horrible ****'s - he must see himself in them or something.
I'd be stunned if Mourinho doesn't have a place for Fellaini. He might not start every week but you can bet that when he wants to spoil the game or when you're chasing the game, his first port of call will be Fellaini.
He's a bang average footballer from a passing/technical point of view but he's a horrible player to play against if you go direct into him.
I could honestly see Mourinho building a side with him just behind somebody like Martial in somekind of 4-2-3-1 - similar to how Utd had that run towards the end of the 14/15 season under LvG. Fellaini will be his option to go long in attack but also to bulk up the midfield too.
I don't take it as a criticism at all, I just think you are wrong
Pepe, Zouma and Ramires are all decent footballers if not spectacular. They are all physical, can tackle and can also have a bit of **** about them. They will put themselves about and take a yellow for the team if needs be. They are not just mindless thugs though. They are mobile and comfortable on the ball.
Fellaini isn't mobile, comfortable on the ball, can't tackle and doesn't take yellows for the team when needs be. He gets yellows for being all elbows and is a complete liability in most areas of his game. He is also pretty **** at heading the ball. He can head clear quite well and he can knock it back into the box when attacking but his control over his headers is woeful.
I can't think of too many players that Mourinho has used that are as technically crap as Fellaini. He doesn't even work that hard.
My main hope is that Moyes returns to Everton and wants Fellaini back. With the new money in the league perhaps they can afford to pay his wages.
The not a criticism part was aimed at Mourinho, not you
And Pepe's not a thug? 
And footballers than Mourinho uses that are technically worse than Fellaini - Mikel.Only time will tell if I'm proven right but I'd be astonished if Fellaini isn't an important player for Mourinho.
I just can't see him having anywhere near the technical ability that Mourinho wants.
I mean this is the guy who deemed Mata surplus to requirements, so surely Fellaini is a goner.
Would you take him at Liverpool, for example?
Mata wasn't deemed surplus to requirements because of a lack of technical ability but a lack of physicality. Had Mata had blistering pace or high work rate/energy like Oscar, he'd still be at Chelsea.
And no, I wouldn't.
The not a criticism part was aimed at Mourinho, not you
Oh I know it wasn't aimed at me
What I meant to say is that Pepe is not only a thug.Mikel is a much better footballer than Fellaini and he gets about and he can tackle. Like you say, we have no idea what tactics we will see from him next season but I assume it will all depend on how many signings he makes.
Interesting article on Umaxit " The darker side of Mourinho and Mendes"
Doesnt paint a rosey picture of JM's 3 years at Real.
( obviousely the author might have his own axe to grind, and has only one opinion but utd could end up with a lot of ( not so great) Mendes clients in the next few years)
Doesnt paint a rosey picture of JM's 3 years at Real.
( obviousely the author might have his own axe to grind, and has only one opinion but utd could end up with a lot of ( not so great) Mendes clients in the next few years)
I think that's inevitable. I really like Jose but I can't see him being suited to United at all. I think they know that themselves which is why they seem so reluctant and lots of rumours people didn't want to work with him. I don't see it lasting long but at least some replacements will get brought in and others shipped out to start to put them in the right direction before it all goes **** up.