Love Britain ? - Vote UKIP.

estebanrey · 23 Apr 2014 at 09:13

MrMoonX said:
Didn't ukip's advert recently get slammed for claiming 26m people come to work her when the actual amount was less than 2% of that

No, it said they COULD come which is correct.

C64 · 23 Apr 2014 at 12:38

Ukip say all the right things but the truth is any party that gets in pretty much goes with the status quo.

If labour got in tomorrow they wouldn't abolish bedroom tax or any of the changes put through all labour care about is being elected same as the tories they do whats best for them to be re elected not whats best for the country.

Until immigrants are doing middle class professions for minimum wage we wont see anything done.

Farage would soil his pants in fear if he actually got in.

C64 · 23 Apr 2014 at 12:43

MrMoonX said:
Didn't ukip's advert recently get slammed for claiming 26m people come to work her when the actual amount was less than 2% of that

Just proves ukip are the party of creating irrational slightly racist fears

takes time for poor people to move over slowly but surely I reckon at least 5m from romania and bulgaria will end up here

platypus · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:03

C64 said:
takes time for poor people to move over slowly but surely I reckon at least 5m from romania and bulgaria will end up here

What basis are you basing this on? Did you read it in your cornflakes?

Tunney · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:03

C64 said:
takes time for poor people to move over slowly but surely I reckon at least 5m from romania and bulgaria will end up here

What are you basing that estimate on?

Gregster · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:10

I was a roofer for years and years working mainly in London and I have seen the British worker losing out to foreigners and at far lower rates than the minimum wage. Illegals ARE working for peanuts and mass living in accommodation and the skilled tradesmen are missing out and just can't compete.

UKIP gets my vote.

JeditOjanen · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:12

estebanrey said:
No, it said they COULD come which is correct.

But they were never all going to come, anyone with half a brain could tell you that.

Those "26 million immigrants" posters are no different to the "Der Ewige Jude" (The Wandering Jew) campaign used by the Nazis. Their intent is to drum up xenophobic panic by means of false threats and to transfer blame for Britain's problems to a convenient scapegoat. Lost your job? It's because 20 immigrants came over here and applied for it. Taxes too high? That's because we're paying billions to immigrant benefit and health tourists. Bus was two minutes late this morning? It would have been on time if it hadn't had to stop for all those immigrants - and if they'd been able to speak English it would have been early!

This campaign is racist, UKIP are racists. Don't vote for them.

platypus · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:13

Gregster said:
I was a roofer for years and years working mainly in London and I have seen the British worker losing out to foreigners and at far lower rates than the minimum wage. Illegals ARE working for peanuts and mass living in accommodation and the skilled tradesmen are missing out and just can't compete.

UKIP gets my vote.

How are UKIP going to change this?

Russinating · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:15

Surely you're pro-minimum wage and anti-illegal workers, then, not just flat out pro-UKIP?

Stretch · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:16

JeditOjanen said:
But they were never all going to come, anyone with half a brain could tell you that.

Those "26 million immigrants" posters are no different to the "Der Ewige Jude" (The Wandering Jew) campaign used by the Nazis. Their intent is to drum up xenophobic panic by means of false threats and to transfer blame for Britain's problems to a convenient scapegoat. Lost your job? It's because 20 immigrants came over here and applied for it. Taxes too high? That's because we're paying billions to immigrant benefit and health tourists. Bus was two minutes late this morning? It would have been on time if it hadn't had to stop for all those immigrants - and if they'd been able to speak English it would have been early!

This campaign is racist, UKIP are racists. Don't vote for them.

What if people are just racist?

XeNoN89 · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:21

JeditOjanen said:
This campaign is racist, UKIP are racists. Don't vote for them.

No it isn't, no they aren't. I'm going to vote for them.

MrMoonX · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:23

XeNoN89 said:
No it isn't, no they aren't. I'm going to vote for them.

Yes they are, and only narrow minded one issue people vote ukip

Gregster · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:23

platypus said:
How are UKIP going to change this?

Hopefully by stemming the tide of foreigners coming into the country and kicking those out who shouldn't be here.

deuse · 23 Apr 2014 at 13:24

platypus said:
How are UKIP going to change this?

It's all on their site dude.

XeNoN89 · 23 Apr 2014 at 14:18

MrMoonX said:
Yes they are, and only narrow minded one issue people vote ukip

Which race are they against then? It would be fair to say they are anti european and anti mass immigration, but that isn't anything to do with race. Claiming they are racist makes you seem a bit silly. Seems quite a few people need to look up the definition of the word.

dirtychinchilla · 23 Apr 2014 at 14:24

Gregster said:
Hopefully by stemming the tide of foreigners coming into the country and kicking those out who shouldn't be here.

Who shouldn't be here? Most of the immigrants in this country are here legally, and cannot and will not be deported.

Gregster · 23 Apr 2014 at 14:29

dirtychinchilla said:
Who shouldn't be here? Most of the immigrants in this country are here legally, and cannot and will not be deported.

Some of the guys I have seen work on site certainly wasn't here legally and the guys who employ them had great delight in telling me this. I now work on a port and have seen illegals trying to get into the country.

I understand their need to get out of their country and I sympathise with their plight/troubles but the youth of today and in future need to be able to secure jobs. The Conservatives didn't do bugger all, Labour didn't do bugger all, so let someone else have a go I say.

Zethor · 23 Apr 2014 at 14:40

Gregster said:
Some of the guys I have seen work on site certainly wasn't here legally and the guys who employ them had great delight in telling me this. I now work on a port and have seen illegals trying to get into the country.

I understand their need to get out of their country and I sympathise with their plight/troubles but the youth of today and in future need to be able to secure jobs. The Conservatives didn't do bugger all, Labour didn't do bugger all, so let someone else have a go I say.

There will always be some illegals, voting for UKIP in the context of your example would be the same as voting for any other party. UKIP promises to tackle legal immigration, are you aware of this?

dirtychinchilla · 23 Apr 2014 at 14:47

Gregster said:
Some of the guys I have seen work on site certainly wasn't here legally and the guys who employ them had great delight in telling me this. I now work on a port and have seen illegals trying to get into the country.

I understand their need to get out of their country and I sympathise with their plight/troubles but the youth of today and in future need to be able to secure jobs. The Conservatives didn't do bugger all, Labour didn't do bugger all, so let someone else have a go I say.

Aside from the double negatives, the youth of today do need to secure their futures, and that should be done by education, not taking low skilled low paid jobs. I am one of these youths you speak of (relatively speaking - I'm 25), and had no trouble whatsoever finding a job when I left uni about 2 years ago. I had about a week where I had no job.

These people who are desperate enough to make journeys in planes and boats etc, they need our help!

I wonder how much money UKIP would waste rounding these poor fellows up.

Gregster · 23 Apr 2014 at 14:54

I am not trying to sway any voters but they stand for things I believe in and hence why I will be voting for UKIP. You also have a vote and can vote for whom you believe in.