I would like to give them the chance. I felt I have wasted votes many times before on promises that were never filled, so why not try someone else? This is my take on it.
Love Britain ? - Vote UKIP.
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I would like to give them the chance. I felt I have wasted votes many times before on promises that were never filled, so why not try someone else? This is my take on it.
I don't trust what UKIP are saying, not one bit.
Their policies are weak - they don't really have any serious plans or defined policies yet - they'll say anything to generate votes and support, especially with a bandwagon subject like immigration - which is all they seem to talk about.
I don't think UKIP have the interests of the UK at heart, I personally think they're a load of fruitcakes with a loud voice on the front, and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.
What you say UKIP were saying they aren't saying, in fact you were basically agreeing with what they are saying.
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we didn't have 4g mobile networks before ?
Things are not the same as "before" and won't be again.
The world is a totally different place now, we're not the only people who produce good engineers, clever and talented people - those days are over, the rest of the world has caught up I'm afraid, deal with it.
That's how I see it too.
It makes no sense for any country to have an open door policy, especially one as developed as the UK.
Of course they haven't because in this day and age they would get called out for being racist bigots (which imho is the genuine motivation for a LARGE number of UKIP supporters)
UKIP are a joke, nothing more than a sugar coated BNP, a bunch of rose tinted glass wearing racist, homophobic bigots who would have this Great Country step back rather than forward
What a surprise! NOT. A bunch of old farts with deeply ingrained bigoted views.
How are you not getting this?
Please explain the logic to that. Employers can hire who they feel is appropriate for the role and if they have the proper visas, then that is fine. If you decide no more foreign work for unskilled, then your established workforce dries up in an instant.
There's nothing you can do to stop illegal immigrants, besides providing more budget to border enforcement.
However their point is as far as controlled immigration is concerned (which I would wager is the vast majority against 'illegals') is to put controls around it, which I think is mental that we don't have already.
The UK does feel like a charity country at times. The top 10% can bang on about helping countries in poverty or allowing more people to enter the UK but that doesn't help anyone that doesn't already earn £50k imo. I'd hedge bets that the majority of working people earning lower wages would prefer lower taxes than helping people around the world if they could answer anomalously.
If you go and work in a supermarket, you'll get minimum wage with a raft of expectations and have to deal with a LOT of ****. Retail in general is a nightmare of a place to work and people deserve more money. The sad fact is that there is an abundance of labour for this price and employers can afford to pay rock bottom in exchange for some hard work.
To live on minimum wage in some areas is ridiculous. Thankfully it's been a while since I was receiving minimum wage but I don't have much play money after I've cleared my bills and I'd say I earn a half decent wage for my age. If I was earning a third of what I do now, I'd have to be in a flat share or living with my folks as no way could I afford anything like a flat or a car.
I think that's a bit sad personally and I'm all for any initiative to improve this.
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You can ramble on about how **** UKIP is all day, but the country is in the dumpster in a lot of ways. Sure you get by, I get by, but there's so much I'd change if I could. I personally think the Tories have been doing alright, they've not ****ed up worse than Labour in my opinion and are proposing some good changes. But maybe it takes a more extremist approach for a change. Why not?
Please ensure you fully star out all swearing in future. Thank you.
LMFAO many times over
thanks for the laugh. Oh you got to thanka yank for 4G So you're saying that Lewis Hamilton's car could only be designed if Merc got people from india ECT.
Most popular sports in the modern world trace their history to Britain
Isaac Newton was a British physicist and mathematician
The first programmable computer was invented by British mathematician
World Wide Web, invented by British computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee.
The world’s first publicly demonstrated television was invented by British inventor John Logie Baird
Theory of Evolution was again a British thing.
The telephone was invented by British inventor Alexander Graham Bell
English is the second most widely spoken language in the world behind Mandarin
We British people don't NEED anyone. It's just some companies like cheap labour
I wonder why the UK is so popular with the rest of the world for it's Unies?
Compared to a lot of other countries we're doing ok, I don't see things falling apart here the way other places are falling apart, I don't think the country is in the dumpster at all, comparatively.
My problem is that people just seem to be jumping on the UKIP bandwagon simply because a man shouts "IMMIGRATION WILL BE *TACKLED*" "BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE" yada yada yada.
When I think, in most cases people aren't taking into consideration the wider picture, that this party if elected would need to run the country, which means they need to do more than just fish for votes using an emotive topic that gets gullible people so riled up.
Aside from screw up immigration - I think UKIP have not demonstrated, to any effect whatsoever - that they're even close to having the capability to run a country.
So these immigrants miraculously get "multiple degrees" quicker than everyone else? Crickey... I think someone's moving into the realms of fantasy here.
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Well no **** Sherlock it would stand to reason a general election is only a year away and that's what I'm talking about
The turnout for eu elections will be so low no mandate or consensus can be gained
So you're saying that Lewis Hamilton's car could only be designed if Merc got people from india ECT.
Most popular sports in the modern world trace their history to Britain
Isaac Newton was a British physicist and mathematician
The first programmable computer was invented by British mathematician
World Wide Web, invented by British computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee.
The world’s first publicly demonstrated television was invented by British inventor John Logie Baird
Theory of Evolution was again a British thing.
The telephone was invented by British inventor Alexander Graham Bell
English is the second most widely spoken language in the world behind Mandarin
We British people don't NEED anyone. It's just some companies like cheap labour
I wonder why the UK is so popular with the rest of the world for it's Unies?
Not denying that we have probably the strongest historical pedigree of science and technology in the world, not denied it for a second.
But if you simply refuse to accept, that the rest of the world has caught up - and you really think that "good ole ingerlund" can go it alone, in the 21st century, because we're so amazing by default - then I can tell you 100%, that you're way off the mark, 50 years ago yes, today nope - not even close.
So now I think you're putting across a much better point. However I still think the immigration is a massive issue people care about, and regardless of whether racist underpinnings exist I don't think UKIPs proposal here is in the least bit discriminate.
The immigration is such a sore subject for most people that the debate begins and ends there.
I think it's a bit of a shallow arguement to say you don't think they could run the country.
Nigel has a lot of experience in politics and business as far as I'm aware. I don't see what more experience you could need... The MPs and Secretaries take care of the running of most of the country. You could probably sit back and smoke crack all day and the country would still go on day to day.
However I am all for having a bit more of a loose cannon behind the reigns, someone who will tell people to F off (not talking about immigration btw) when it's appropriate rather than the wet flannel that is Cameron/Clegg. Although I also think Cameron would be better without his Libdem friend in the boat. And on that basis, the sensible vote for me would be Tory just to try and make sure Labour/Libdem don't get hold of the steering wheel, however if my vote was the decider I think I'd pick UKIP.
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