I'd be interested to hear your source on this piece of fact.
Love Britain ? - Vote UKIP.
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I'd be interested to hear your source on this piece of fact.
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It's all about cheap labour. Oh you got a apple phone\pad? Thank a British person for the design
But really it's all about the money and how cheap you can get it done for. Can't wait to get out of the EU.
made me smirk, after I just booked flight to London #desperate
not sure if ironic but ill pretend it wasn't
not sure if ironic but ill pretend it wasn't
I'm not seeing a point in your delusional rant. Minimum wage is payment for jobs that do not require years of training and qualifications. You get what you put in.
I feel Doug Stanhope is the man to explain things to citizens waffling on about immigrants taking their jobs.
"If someone who doesn't speak your language is more qualified in your country than you are to do your job who is at fault?"
"If someone who doesn't speak your language is more qualified in your country than you are to do your job who is at fault?"
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So there should be NO protectionism at all?
How do people with your viewpoint GENUINELY think the game will play out long term? We've got rising economies in other parts of the world, that will pose a serious problem for our future sustainability and living standards.
A country such as the UK (and even more so places like Ireland etc) will simply get assimilated.
1,351,000,000 people in China (current)
1,200,000,000 people in India
1,000,000,000 people in Africa
4,000,000 people in Ireland
63,000,000 people in UK
In my opinion (unpopular though it might be), diversity is a good thing. I like the idea of different countries, it allows for a far more interesting world.
Anyway, that's getting away from the point. I think my viewpoint can be summed up as: highly skilled people who are needed and are not replacing the existing workforce (or the existing workforce who could be trained up) is grand.
Getting uneducated, barely civilised people from all corners of the globe who contribute nothing.....no thanks.
Of course they haven't because in this day and age they would get called out for being racist bigots (which imho is the genuine motivation for a LARGE number of UKIP supporters)
UKIP are a joke, nothing more than a sugar coated BNP, a bunch of rose tinted glass wearing racist, homophobic bigots who would have this Great Country step back rather than forward
What a surprise! NOT. A bunch of old farts with deeply ingrained bigoted views.
Not once has Farage claimed to be the man to stop immigration, in fact he's all for immigration, just not uncontrolled immigration.
The EU has pretty much made it very hard for most EU states to accept working visa requests from anywhere but the EU.
It's discrimination at its most subtle.
Absolute ********.
Not even going to reply because my points are in my previous post.
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Don't get me wrong, I understand your point and I know your opinion is your own, but it's still general discussion, so I'm discussing
Yes you did. I won't be discussing the love of fear the English folk seem to have. I'll continue enjoying my life.
So you don't know how or if someone can do something, but will vote for them? And they say democracy works..
I don't need any more to see you as a bigoted idiot.
I fail again? At what exactly? You don't even know my political stance or where my vote has or will go in the future. Can you prove that previous governments have not wanted to do anything about immigration?
This is a thread about how you should vote UKIP if you love Britain. Therefore, surely the onus would be on UKIP supporters to try and convince people as to how and why we should vote UKIP, by oh I don't know, facts or evidence of how UKIP are going to tackle this problem?
Don't get me wrong, I understand your point and I know your opinion is your own, but it's still general discussion, so I'm discussing
Absolutely and that is what a forum is for. I have no allegiances to any party but UKIP hit on the things that have hit home for me, so hence my way of thinking. They could well be another party full of broken promises and not deliver on policies but like I said, neither have Labour or the Conservatives before.
I watched the Sky news interview and frankly, that anchor woman was trying to be a Paxman/Dimbleby but it came across as a personal crusade and not an unbiased interview. That was my take on it anyway.
So because someone doesn't know how to sort out immigration, they shouldn't vote?
The way I see it and the big issue I have is this word Restricted, or moderation as they seem to like to coin it.
We can let rich foreign people in We can let capable skilled people in but nothing else.
For years immigration has assisted the growth of this nation. Capitalism by design needs cheap labour. Shutting the doors is sentencing yourself to being forced to do a **** job. If you're unsure about that go look at what many of the jobs these immigrants do and the reasons they are needed, because people are above sorting potatoes because thanks to developments in media and social networking many people have a belief that they are in some way deserved of a better way of life.
Reality is someone has to do that job they can't just up the wages if they did it would force a rise in the cost of the goods they produce unless you want them to outsource the jobs to other countries then what?
People in this country do need a reality check but I'll be damned if I ever vote a bigoted homophobes like Nigel Farage into office Even one vote is telling him he has the right idea. I'm all for change I'm all for enforcing to the current governments enough is enough but not via people like Farage I'd rather suffer Cameron's lies and broken promises for the rest of my life than risk fascism of any level creeping up into this beautiful country.
Disagree all you want it's not like anyone comes to GD on Ocuk forums for voting advice anyway
We can let rich foreign people in We can let capable skilled people in but nothing else.
For years immigration has assisted the growth of this nation. Capitalism by design needs cheap labour. Shutting the doors is sentencing yourself to being forced to do a **** job. If you're unsure about that go look at what many of the jobs these immigrants do and the reasons they are needed, because people are above sorting potatoes because thanks to developments in media and social networking many people have a belief that they are in some way deserved of a better way of life.
Reality is someone has to do that job they can't just up the wages if they did it would force a rise in the cost of the goods they produce unless you want them to outsource the jobs to other countries then what?
People in this country do need a reality check but I'll be damned if I ever vote a bigoted homophobes like Nigel Farage into office Even one vote is telling him he has the right idea. I'm all for change I'm all for enforcing to the current governments enough is enough but not via people like Farage I'd rather suffer Cameron's lies and broken promises for the rest of my life than risk fascism of any level creeping up into this beautiful country.
Disagree all you want it's not like anyone comes to GD on Ocuk forums for voting advice anyway
Where on earth does that come from? So from your definition, anyone who shows support for UKIP needs to convince you and oh I don't know, everyone else that they should support UKIP as well. Not sure on your definition of Democracy you quoted me on earlier you are talking about.
I support LFC but I don't try and convince anyone else to support them. You have some strange ideals.
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