We saw a prime example earlier where people starting claiming that if you don't support gay marriage you are a homophobe. That's just ridiculous as somebody could have no issue what so ever with gay people, yet could believe that either religiously or traditionally a marriage should stay as only between a man and a woman.
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We saw a prime example earlier where people starting claiming that if you don't support gay marriage you are a homophobe. That's just ridiculous as somebody could have no issue what so ever with gay people, yet could believe that either religiously or traditionally a marriage should stay as only between a man and a woman.
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If you spot the bigotry and racism the moderation team will stamp it out - report it. I personally cannot stand it - but I can't spot it all the time as I don't have the opportunity to read every nuance that is being said and rely on the mod team, but also you guys to get in touch if you're unhappy with something.
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People did used to make somewhat extreme comments in the past, but I hope that things are better now as those that posted inflammatory comments either no longer post or have changed their views. However people are entitled to their views, and much to my relief people are quick to chastise those that make bigoted and aggressive racist comments - if the line is crossed then of course action will be taken. In general however the forums have always been well balance in my opinion.
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It's no the forum that's racist, only racist's that post here.. or those that make racism the issue it is... Everyone is entitled to an opinion as far as i'm concerned. whether we agree to that opinion is irrelevant because that's all it is.. an opinion.. in my opinion.. but racism in it's true form is unacceptable.
Homophobia isn't a literal term like arachnophobia, somebody who is homophobic is not terrified of homosexuals, they are just bigoted towards them and discriminate against them. Not supporting gay marriage is discrimination against homosexuals based on bigoted outdated beliefs*, and somebody who does it is acting in a homophobic manner, thus a homophobe.
*I say beliefs because it is their belief, it is not necessarily the bibles teaching as it's messages towards marriage and homosexuality are very open to interperation.
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Not supporting same sex marriage is active discrimination and a homophobic point of view. There is no rational, logical, evidence based reason why same sex couple can not be treated the same same as heterosexual couples and so to deny them something so incredibly basic is just homophobic bile.
Soldato
No thank you, I won't be voting for UKIP, not my cup of tea at all... Although I know a fair few people who have boasted about planning to vote for them.
They weren't denied civil ceremonies, which afforded them the same legal rights.
Was denying straight couples civil ceremonies heterophobic? What rubbish.
They are at 30% in the latest polls I think?
If they do get 30% in the EU election, the joke is on the British public because the UK will lose most of its influence in the European Parliament. The ring wing nutters have no say in the matter of EU legislation as they can't join any of the influencial groups (popular, social-democrat, liberal) and they usually cast "troll" votes such as being against lower EU roaming charges.
If they do get 30% in the EU election, the joke is on the British public because the UK will lose most of its influence in the European Parliament. The ring wing nutters have no say in the matter of EU legislation as they can't join any of the influencial groups (popular, social-democrat, liberal) and they usually cast "troll" votes such as being against lower EU roaming charges.
Soldato
Think about it this way then - there is no rational, logical, evidence based reason why anybody in modern society needs the antiquated institution of marriage to prove their feelings to each other. And yet marriages are undertaken every minute of every day, mainly for three reasons:
- moral - ie. to regulate matters and conform to established moral cannon in the eyes of family and strangers - as in - marry to "make honest woman out of" to use idiomatic expression
- celebratory - ie. to show your devotion, to elevate your love to a standard acknowledged as permanent by general society
- contractual - ie. to make things easier, steady, especially for her and your offspring in case of, oh I don't know - sudden departure
If you are denying same sex partners institution of marriage, ask yourself this. Is it because you don't want them to have the same moral stance? You don't want them to celebrate? Or you don't want them to have the same legal protection? And if not, why not. Or maybe there is another reason why you think people marry and why gay relationships should be treated differently?
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Hello elmarko , I am sceptical that climate sensitivity to CO2 is high enough to pose a catastrophic effect to our planet.
There is no "data set" that either proves or disproves that it is or is not.
Our knowledge of our climate is not good enough to separate a harmful human caused warming signal from such a chaotic system.
My scepticism comes from things like the satellite data not showing runaway warming.
In fact for the second half of the 30yrs that we have been using them, the temps have flat lined, even while C02 levels have continued to rise.
Models that have failed in their predictions badly because they are flawed give me no confidence in the hypothesis of CAGW either.
There are many other reasons for my scepticism , but I do not feel this is the thread for that.
There should be absolutely no difference between a same sex and hetro sex marriage. Both sides should have equal opportunities without discrimination in any direction.
Why the need to differentiate and discriminate?
Should black people have to sit in a special carriage on a train? Should Jewish people not be allowed in cinemas?
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I think they are, deep down, just a little terrified.
Terrified it might awaken something in them
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Not if they insist on wearing their hats. It makes watching the film difficult when they sit in front of me.
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YES and I want 4 wives but they won't let me! it's discrimination I tell you.
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I don't think I've denied anyone anything. I've asked why its necessary to redefine something that, according to you, is antiquated and of no use any more.
Celebrate? Sorry, can that not be done at a civil ceremony
? The ones I've been to where awesome parties and certainly a hell of a lot was celebrated. Moral stance? Absolutely nothing to do with the name given to the ceremony. Legal protection? The civil ceremony bill can do that without renaming or redefining something. Calling questioning the renaming of something homophobia is sheer nonsense.
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Always worth a giggle: policies from the last UKIP manifesto.
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