Man of Honour
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Yet when they do burn they’re harder to put out. So we’ll likely see this kind of scenario more often. Especially once we have car parks and streets full of them.
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Yet when they do burn they’re harder to put out. So we’ll likely see this kind of scenario more often. Especially once we have car parks and streets full of them.
It would save in demolition and site clearance costs though.
Soldato
More difficult but diesel engines can have a runaway event if oil leaks in the turbo. Hot engine oil gets blown into the air intake and acts like diesel, they are very similar. Turning off the ignition does nothing because the engine only needs air and fuel and the turbo is now feeding it both. The engine now just revs until it destroys itself and can catch fire. Many industrial diesel engines have a way to cut off the air supply if this happens, cars do not.
I wonder how they will go about getting all the cars out. Obviously hundreds of cars look to be ok and unharmed, but they speak of structural damage to the carpark. Lifting and towing cars out is going to be tricky to do without damaging them further which seems a shame and a big waste of money. I wonder if owners will be able to provide keys so fire crew can attempt to drive some of them out. Or will they just forcibly move them? Or will they not risk it and demolish the structure with cars in it!?
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Damn. That's pretty conclusive.
I don't fully understand how insurance works in this case.. But will that insurer be liable for the entire cost?
All the cars and building etc?
That's a hefty bill!
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I saw something on this a little while ago.
Think it was Sweden.
They have a container (shipping) that can be filled with a inert gas, and it cools the whole thing down, semi rapidly and stops the potential runaway cell issue.
Its that issue that causes the "fires" to go on for hours. Its out but can restart if a damaged cell slowly heats up due to that damage.
Putting them in the container stops this and means the risk disappears pretty rapidly. (Once they are cooled they will not go into that loop)
So the net effect is likely to be less disruption as long as we do similar.
When you get an ICE fire it normally ends up with carriageway damage which means roads tend to be shut longer than they need to be. Or lanes closed off.
EV shouldn't have that problem to as large a degree.
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Soldato
Yes we have. nvm.
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Lots of people saying that looks nothing like the Luton car park.
Do they have a 'vehicles parked here at your own risk' signs...
Soldato
Not confirmed but eyewitness reports
Thousands of Luton passengers hit by chaos after blaze destroys 1,200 cars
More than 15 fire crews tackled the blaze in Luton Airport's multi-storey carpark, as eyewitnesses described "scary scenes" with up to 1,200 vehicles thought to be damagedwww.mirror.co.uk'SUV Range Rover exploded' and 'caused chain reaction'
Those pesky 16 year old EV land rovers!
Luton vans surely?
They’ll all be written off if the structure is inherently unsafe to remove them quickly.
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Yes they will risk assess the structure as to whether recovery is viable.
They almost certainly would not be allowing the public in, but they may decide that a controlled removal of some vehicles is possible.
These sorts of thing tend to fail quite quickly if they are going to fail.
If not then they can reduce the chances of that quite quickly if they can get a grab crane type thing on site to start removing the cars off the roof. Which I assume are all mullered anyway.
They almost certainly would not be allowing the public in, but they may decide that a controlled removal of some vehicles is possible.
These sorts of thing tend to fail quite quickly if they are going to fail.
If not then they can reduce the chances of that quite quickly if they can get a grab crane type thing on site to start removing the cars off the roof. Which I assume are all mullered anyway.
Fortunately quite a rare occurrence, but easy enough to cure, just stall the engine.
I’ve had a few go on me, and it’s entertaining to say the least.
Not anymore.
Caporegime
I don't know if that relates to you can being burned to the ground. These airport parking places are not cheap either. It was more expensive to park our car at Stanstead for 3 days than it was for 2 of us (and 2 nippers) to fly to Ireland. Outrageous.