Mac users' elitism

Al Vallario · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:05

PhilthyPhil said:
O RLY?

Yes.

Good God, that is horrific

dirtydog · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:06

Jet said:
Playing a DVD on a Windows PC is expensive

No it really isn't

It's either free with VLC, free with most or all pre-built PCs, or a couple of quid for the OEM version of a software player like PowerDVD or WinDVD.

Jet · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:06

pmbuzz said:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=3250279&postcount=112

Way to post pictures of a computer that was made in 1998 and is considered an industrial design hallmark of the late 1990s :cool:

alexakasloth · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:07

PhilthyPhil said:
O RLY?

What theme etc is that?

Al Vallario said:
Yes.

Good God, that is horrific

Quite nice I think.

Al Vallario · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:07

Raikiri said:
VLC is free and seems to work fine with all of my DVDs.

VLC is also free on OS X and allows you to play video clips at full screen.

So a third party applications substitutes the ability to watch DVDs (a pretty important thing for most users) on Windows, and the ability to view video clips in full-screen (pretty useless, no home user is going to want to do that; Frontrow is perfect etc.) on OS X. What's the big deal?

PhilthyPhil · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:07

Doesn't WMP11 play DVDs, I'm sure I managed to play one in it... I don't really play DVDs on my computer much anyway.

dirtydog · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:07

$loth said:
What theme etc is that?

Vista and Aero presumably.

Vai · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:08

Jet said:
Errrr no. That's with the Enterprise Edition and I dread to think how much that costs. Not to mention it's the newest office suite which doesn't have a competitor on Mac yet.

Think about comparing the 2003 version with comparable pricing.

The fact is the Mac version of Office does not include programs which are available to Windows users.

The more important thing is that a lot of the time programs which people use on Windows aren't directly available on OS X, and require you to use a different piece of software, which is in my opinion the biggest problem with OS X and why I won't be using it as my primary OS until it gains more support (i.e., most software is released for both Windows and OS X)

alexakasloth · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:09

Al Vallario said:
What's the big deal?

Jet said:
Playing a DVD on a Windows PC is expensive too.

Just saying that if you have a dvd drive then it doesn't cost anything, no big deal.

PhilthyPhil · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:10

dirtydog said:
Vista and Aero presumably.

Yes, that is the standard look for Word 2007 on Vista.

Jet · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:11

Raikiri said:
VLC is free and seems to work fine with all of my DVDs.

VLC works on Mac too but it's more unstable than DVD player on both formats. I use both weekly. Plus the difference is you get it for free. I agree VLC is more than sufficient and is a good program but with OSX you get more for your money.

And how many normal users know about VLC? The makers of PowerDVD made $3,000 million; it seems not many.

I'd rather use quicktime for videos too its more stable than VLC and with the codecs I can play loads of types. I still keep VLC as a back-up though.

Matt · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:11

PhilthyPhil said:
O RLY?

That really is horrific

PhilthyPhil · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:15

Matt said:
That really is horrific

Fair enough. I think white computers look horrific, seriously the iMac looks awful. Each to their own.

Jet · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:17

Vai said:
The fact is the Mac version of Office does not include programs which are available to Windows users.

The more important thing is that a lot of the time programs which people use on Windows aren't directly available on OS X, and require you to use a different piece of software, which is in my opinion the biggest problem with OS X and why I won't be using it as my primary OS until it gains more support (i.e., most software is released for both Windows and OS X)

You can't compare a £500 Office suite to a mac version which costs 5 times less or something and then complain about the features, most of which are not needed by the home user.

Your second paragraph is fair enough but to me there is no difference using Safari to IE and iCal and iMail to Outlook etc. In fact I would argue that the OSX alternatives are better. Safari is (I think) the most standards-compliant browser availble and the others are brilliant. But many ppl can't decide because they've never experienced them.

pmbuzz · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:18

Jet said:
Way to post pictures of a computer that was made in 1998 and is considered an industrial design hallmark of the late 1990s

That was as ugly then as it is now.
A "design hallmark" for Apple, no-one else iirc.

Raikiri · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:18

Jet said:
VLC works on Mac too but it's more unstable than DVD player on both formats.

Must be your Mac/PC... has never crashed on mine

Matt · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:18

PhilthyPhil said:
Each to their own.

Exactly

If only everyone could take this approach instead of insulting others for their choice, making stupid little remarks, and trying to better one another

benjo plz. · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:19

Matt said:
That really is horrific

It's Office 2007, not much you can do about it.

Jet · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:19

dirtydog said:
No it really isn't It's either free with VLC, free with most or all pre-built PCs, or a couple of quid for the OEM version of a software player like PowerDVD or WinDVD.

Fact is you have to pay for DVD software. Most users haven't even heard of VLC. It aint expensive but then neither is Quicktime imo (not that its neccessary). I was using his word against him

alexakasloth · 14 Jan 2007 at 19:22

Jet said:
Fact is you have to pay for DVD software. Most users haven't even heard of VLC. It aint expensive but then neither is Quicktime imo (not that its neccessary). I was using his word against him

Most users haven't heard of 'safari' etc, only popular ones such as iTunes.

As dirtydog has said, VLC is bundled with many pc's if PowerDVD is not which it usually is.