Madeleine McCann cops ask Home Office for more money to continue search for missing child

The old 'Neglect' accusation has come up again so some of you need to know what Neglect is in this country.
Do I agree with it? - No but the law is the law -

What is neglect?
Neglect is the ONGOING failure to meet a child's basic needs and the most common form of child abuse
2. A child might be left hungry or dirty, or without proper clothing, shelter, supervision or health care. This can put children and young people in danger. And it can also have long term effects on their physical and mental wellbeing.

Types of neglect
Neglect can be a lot of different things, which can make it hard to spot. But broadly speaking, there are 4 types of neglect.

Physical neglect
A child's basic needs, such as food, clothing or shelter, are not met or they aren'y properly supervised or kept safe.
Educational neglect
A parent doesn't ensure their child is given an education.
Emotional neglect
A child doesn't get the nurture and stimulation they need. This could be through ignoring, humiliating, intimidating or isolating them.
Medical neglect
A child isn't given proper health care. This includes dental care and refusing or ignoring medical recommendations.

So as you can see in this country it wouldn't be Neglect.
Also in Portugal they allow the hotels to have a listening service which checks in every 1 hour, the Tapas Seven decided to check in every 30 minutes.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
2. A child might be left hungry or dirty, or without proper clothing, shelter, supervision or health care. This can put children and young people in danger. And it can also have long term effects on their physical and mental wellbeing.
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The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) says:
  • children under 12 are rarely mature enough to be left alone for a long period of time
  • children under 16 should not be left alone overnight
  • babies, toddlers and very young children should never be left alone
Parents can be prosecuted if they leave a child unsupervised ‘in a manner likely to cause unnecessary suffering or injury to health’.
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wasnt this leaving 2x two year olds and a three year old alone.
but I guess it's okay if you give them medicine to help them sleep and someone checks on every every 30mins+

no young child ever woke up and tried to climb out of bed, not when they are drugged anyway so yea, it's totally reasonable
 
SexyGreyFox said:
The old 'Neglect' accusation has come up again . . .
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Probably from people who haven't had children . . . or friends ;)

I feel desperately sorry for the McCanns; I doubt that they frequent this forum but I suspect that nothing that anybody says about or to them is half as bad as the sorrow and sense of guilt they feel every day :(
 
FoxEye said:
It's normal to leave 2 and 3 years old in a house on their own then?

How many parents do you know that think that's fine and reasonable?
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Forget about parents...

How many PEOPLE think it's acceptable to leave 2 and 3 year olds alone, while taking a jolly with friends during a holiday to another country.

ANY attempt to justify this with pathetic "Probably from people who haven't had children . . . or friends ;)" Type comments is utterly disgraceful and can only come from ignorant morons who think it's perfectly acceptable to neglect their responsibilities as parents and guardians of those children.
 
stockhausen said:
Probably from people who haven't had children . . . or friends ;)

I feel desperately sorry for the McCanns; I doubt that they frequent this forum but I suspect that nothing that anybody says about or to them is half as bad as the sorrow and sense of guilt they feel every day :(
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I have a 4 year old. How anyone could leave someone that young alone, even at home, never mind a hotel beggars belief.

Wether anyone believes her parents were involved or not is irrelevant to the fact that leaving those kids alone was disgusting.
 
Woden said:
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Whether anyone believes her parents were involved or not is irrelevant to the fact that leaving those kids alone was disgusting.
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Fair enough; condemn their foolish, negligent behaviour - don't, as self-righteous, perfect people regularly do, accuse them of complicity in the abduction of their daughter.
THAT is disgusting.
 
Forget 2 or 6, I know some adults at work I wouldn't leave alone incase they hurt themselves lol

But yea, really dumb move. If they hadn't had done it this would never have happened.
 
stockhausen said:
Fair enough; condemn their foolish, negligent behaviour - don't, as self-righteous, perfect people regularly do, accuse them of complicity in the abduction of their daughter.
THAT is disgusting.
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Don't try and sit there on your ******* high horse acting all morally superior now, when you LITERALLY just attempted to defend and justify their behaviour with comments like this...

"Probably from people who haven't had children . . . or friends ;)"


YOU have no grounds for passing judgement on others while you attempt to defend the indefensible. You are disgusting.
 
Devilman said:
Forget about parents...

How many PEOPLE think it's acceptable to leave 2 and 3 year olds alone, while taking a jolly with friends during a holiday to another country.
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Absolutely loads and it breaks my heart.
Every time I go abroad I'm a people watcher and one of the games I play while sitting around the pool is to observe families and then later at night see the parents without the kids.
It happens time & time again and I always want to say something but I keep my mouth shut.
Some make an effort by putting a baby monitor on the table as though that would stop a paedo.
The majority of holiday hotels/complexes run a listening service which I also think is wrong.

In my opinion two things they did wrong:
1) With the other kids of the Tapas 7 they left them in rooms about 300 yards away.
2) They have never taken responsibility for leaving them in a room instead thinking it was OK and the only one at fault was the abductor.

For that alone I treat them with contempt.
 
kinda weird they never checked all the old wells , okay theyre what was it 4 miles away?
but you'd think the police would be checking any wells, caves, open sewers etc they could find within miles
 
I'd like to see some kind of conclusion, I'd like to think the majority of the memes weren't justified.

This development sounds like a lot of viewpoints may change, mine won't.

SexyGreyFox said:
Every time I go abroad I'm a people watcher and one of the games I play while sitting around the pool is to observe families and then later at night see the parents without the kids.
It happens time & time again and I always want to say something but I keep my mouth shut.
Some make an effort by putting a baby monitor on the table as though that would stop a paedo.
The majority of holiday hotels/complexes run a listening service which I also think is wrong.

In my opinion two things they did wrong:
1) With the other kids of the Tapas 7 they left them in rooms about 300 yards away.
2) They have never taken responsibility for leaving them in a room instead thinking it was OK and the only one at fault was the abductor.

For that alone, I treat them with contempt.
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I've experienced the same and been laughed at when I spoke out about it round a table one night in Cyprus.

Yes, ultimately the abductor was the villain, but they were the ones who chose to leave their child without that parental protective sheild, I still hold it with regard to my 23-year-old daughter, nevermind my attitude when she was Madelaine's age.....

Sad.
 
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Not only did they leave the children alone, but they left the patio door unlocked.

Edit: When asked 49 questions Kate answered 1, the other 48 she refused, did she ever provide answers to them?
 
LeMson said:
Not only did they leave the children alone, but they left the patio door unlocked.

Edit: When asked 49 questions Kate answered 1, the other 48 she refused, did she ever provide answers to them?
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She had already spent 8 hours answering questions on the previous day. The next day she exercised her right to remain silent, under instruction from her lawyer. When you're in a foreign country, being questioned by police under the rules of an unfamiliar legal system, and your lawyer says 'don't answer any more questions', you follow your lawyer's advice.
 
Sankari said:
She had already spent 8 hours answering questions on the previous day. The next day she exercised her right to remain silent, under instruction from her lawyer. When you're in a foreign country, being questioned by police under the rules of an unfamiliar legal system, and your lawyer says 'don't answer any more questions', you follow your lawyer's advice.
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She has been free to answer the questions for years though right? From the comfort of her own home, sat safe by the fire with a hot chocolate on a cold winters night, or after a long lazy afternoon tanning in the garden in July. We can read the questions online, is there any answers to them all these years later?
 
Sankari said:
Don't know, don't care. It seems pretty clear to me that she's innocent. If she's guilty, she must be the greatest criminal mastermind of recorded human history.
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Maybe you should care a little bro, it's possible this little girl is still alive and maybe hasn't had the best life.

The parents, well I find them shifty, they make my skin crawl.

Post after post above was about neglect and leaving the children alone, no one seemed to mention they were also alone with the patio doors unlocked and possibly the windows open.

If she hasn't managed to find time to answer them after all these years that's fine, was just wondering if she had.

Thanks once again for your 'don't know, don't care' post though. Cretin :)
 
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