Madeleine McCann cops ask Home Office for more money to continue search for missing child

[glenimp617]

If I were the McCanns, I'd be reminding myself that I would still have a daughter if I hadn't done such a ****-poor job at parenting.

It was a daft thing to do. Complete error of judgement...and I do think it will weigh heavily on them for the rest of their lives.

That said, the public has been pointing the finger at them for 13 years, which they didn't deserve. Stupid, yes....murderers....no

 

[HEADRAT]

If I were the McCanns, I'd be reminding myself that I would still have a daughter if I hadn't done such a ****-poor job at parenting.

This, if there had been a fire instead of an abduction then they could have lost all of their children.

As a parent of 3 kids we’ve only ever left them when under the care of family or long term friends. We also accept that accidents can happen whoever they’re being looked after by as you can’t watch them every second but I consider what the McCanns did as unacceptable.

 

[Devilman]

It was a daft thing to do. Complete error of judgement...and I do think it will weigh heavily on them for the rest of their lives.

That said, the public has been pointing the finger at them for 13 years, which they didn't deserve. Stupid, yes....murderers....no

Shame the responsibility of being a parent didn't weigh on them heavily enough before they decided to behave in such an ignorant, selfish manner.

People have made "Complete error's of judgement" which resulted in the loss of someone else's life and they go to jail for it.

These people deserve nothing less. They should have been used as an example case, a demonstration to the public that your responsibilities as a parent outweigh ANY selfish desire to go have a jolly at the local tapas bar.

Instead they have sucked millions in resources out of the system, the likes of which no other missing child ever has, all the while being entirely responsible for the whole thing happening in the first place.

It's just absurd.

 

[glenimp617]

Shame the responsibility of being a parent didn't weigh on them heavily enough before they decided to behave in such an ignorant, selfish manner.

People have made "Complete error's of judgement" which resulted in the loss of someone else's life and they go to jail for it.

These people deserve nothing less. They should have been used as an example case, a demonstration to the public that your responsibilities as a parent outweigh ANY selfish desire to go have a jolly at the local tapas bar.

Instead they have sucked millions in resources out of the system, the likes of which no other missing child ever has, all the while being entirely responsible for the whole thing happening in the first place.

It's just absurd.

Thinking about this a bit more, and as a parent myself, I have to agree with you. I'm not sure what they were thinking.

 

[Devilman]

Thinking about this a bit more, and as a parent myself, I have to agree with you. I'm not sure what they were thinking.

Well, I can only imagine they were thinking of themselves and nothing else, tbh. Putting all sorts of excuses in place to justify to themselves that what they were doing was "fine" when they knew damn well it was not acceptable AT ALL. (at least they SHOULD have known this).

I mean, think about it... Not only did they leave Madeleine, but her 2 younger twin sister/brother in the apartment also. So they didn't give a toss 3 times over. Add to that something which is absolutely one of my biggest pet-hates....

A 3 year old, and a pair of 2 year olds, on a plane? Really?

How utterly selfish, ignorant, rude, obnoxious and uncaring do you have to be to both subject your children to those painful pressure-changes which causes ear's to pop and kids to scream and cry... While at the same time subjecting the rest of the planes occupants to the sounds of those kids screaming / crying etc.. due to said discomfort(s).. All because "The McCanns" wan't their summer holiday.

Well aren't they so ****ing special?

It is only the most self-centered, selfish, rude, ignorant, obnoxious, self-serving people who behave in such a manner. Most people have enough respect and sense of responsibility not to...

 

[kinetic747]

Can't say I'm a fan of the McCanns but they've been to hell and back since Madeleine disappeared. Best not to think of how she met her death but she was let down from the very beginning.

 

[Devilman]

Can't say I'm a fan of the McCanns but they've been to hell and back since Madeleine disappeared. Best not to think of how she met her death but she was let down from the very beginning.

A Parent who loses their child in a fire has been to hell and back.

A Parent who loses their child in a road accident has been to hell and back.

A Parent who loses their child in military service has been to hell and back.

These parents CAUSED the loss of their child.. They SHOULD have been to jail and back.

 

[Destination]

Thinking about this a bit more, and as a parent myself, I have to agree with you. I'm not sure what they were thinking.

They were being selfish, they were there to enjoy their holiday, quite why they didn't avail of the hotel 'nanny' option for that exact event is beyond me, I can only think they were being cheap, which in itself is somewhat disturbing.
They wanted their nights out, the kids were just a chain around the neck, which frankly at ages 0 and 3 or whatever is exactly what they were to the parents.
They didn't expect what would happen to happen, but although not officially neglect, its certainly ***** parenting.
Although she sat on crimewatch and said he took her ages to reason that the only person whos fault it was is the person who took the wee girl, that either a deflection, or worse sociopathy and she really doesn't understand that it is their fault all day long.

Just awful.

 

[Bluecube]

Absolute garbage. They did NOT cause their child to be kidnapped. They did NOT tell anyone to pop into their apartment and take their child.

 

[Devilman]

Absolute garbage. They did NOT cause their child to be kidnapped. They did NOT tell anyone to pop into their apartment and take their child.

Would it have happened if they had been taking their responsibility has a parent of 3 young children seriously and stayed in the apartment?

They even left the patio door unlocked ffs... WHO LEAVES A DOOR UNLOCKED ?!

They are 100% responsible for it even being a possibility, let alone actually happening.

They are meant to be the protector and guardian of those kids... You cannot do that from hundreds of yards away, having a jolly in the local Tapas bar.

You can try to spin it all you like, but the simple fact is.. If they had actually behaved like parents, their children would have been safely tucked up in bed, doors locked, with the parents in the next room.



If you pour petrol all over a house and it bursts into flames, it doesn't matter that someone else dropped the match, You still bare responsibility for it also.

 

[glenimp617]

Perhaps a better way of saying it, is "they didn't cause her death, they just didn't prevent it"

 

[Devilman]

They facilitated (enabled?) it, would be more succinct I feel.

I mean, look at the details... Early that same day she was abducted...

Over breakfast Madeleine asked: "Why didn't you come when [her brother] and I cried last night?" After the disappearance, her parents wondered whether this meant someone had entered the children's bedroom. Her mother also noticed a large brown stain on Madeleine's pyjama top.[45]

So already most *normal* parents would be asking what she meant by this and almost universally I think most parents would be asking where the stain on her top came from which wasn't there when they put her to bed?


But not the McCanns, They wanted their last night at the Tapas bar and nothing was gonna stand in the way of that, Not even the safety of their 3 young children.


And later still while actually abandoning their responsibilities as parents for yet another time by going to the Tapas bar anyway....

Madeleine's father carried out the first check on 5A at around 21:05. The children were asleep and all was well, except that he recalled having left the children's bedroom door slightly ajar, and now it stood almost wide open. He pulled it nearly closed again before returning to the restaurant.[48]

Now OK sure, I will admit here, it is easily possible that it could have been one of the kids woke up for a moment, opened the door a bit, wandered around and then went back to bed.

BUT... considering the context of what had happened that morning, surely... SURELY this would be the warning sign that would make the father stay at the apartment?

Nope.. The McCann's need their Tapas party and to hell with any sense of responsibility or guardianship of these 3 young children, so he just pulled the door almost closed again and went back to his fun.



There really is no part of the story that elicits sympathy for these people. Their attitude and their actions are utterly reprehensible.

 

[stockhausen]

Perhaps a better way of saying it, is "they didn't cause her death, they just didn't prevent it"

A bit like people who knowing the risks, drink and drive, who speed, who pass slower traffic on the wrong side you mean?

I guess that the difference here is that in some such cases, impatient, arrogant, dangerous drivers do actually cause other people to die - still, only a few per day

 

[Destination]

Absolute garbage. They did NOT cause their child to be kidnapped. They did NOT tell anyone to pop into their apartment and take their child.

They were responsible.
They were responsible, they may not have 'caused' the kidnap and/or death of their child, but inherently there were responsible for what occurred directly through their actions.

 

[Bluecube]

Once again, absolute garbage. You cannot hold other people responsible for the actions of unconnected others.

It’s astonishing the hysteria, lack of rationality and determination of many people on this forum to blame the McCanns for the actions of others.

 

[stockhausen]

Once again, absolute garbage. You cannot hold other people responsible for the actions of unconnected others.

It’s astonishing the hysteria, lack of rationality and determination of many people on this forum to blame the McCanns for the actions of others.

This; some people here who are incredibly keen to throw stones, knowing that they have never done anything wrong or ever made a mistake - lucky people

 

[m@rty]

Once again, absolute garbage. You cannot hold other people responsible for the actions of unconnected others.

Garbage from you that is. They should be held responsible.

 

[Devilman]

Once again, absolute garbage. You cannot hold other people responsible for the actions of unconnected others.

It’s astonishing the hysteria, lack of rationality and determination of many people on this forum to blame the McCanns for the actions of others.

I blame them for the actions of themselves.

If they had been in the apartment like responsible parents, then it would not have happened.

 

[fez]

Once again, absolute garbage. You cannot hold other people responsible for the actions of unconnected others.

It’s astonishing the hysteria, lack of rationality and determination of many people on this forum to blame the McCanns for the actions of others.

So there is no personal responsibility as long as someone else is the main perpetrator. I was down the pub when my child suffocated but I didn't suffocate them so its nothing to do with me.

Your children are your responsibility and if your children come to harm because of your negligence then there should be consequences whether your foresaw them or not. My parents would never have done what the McCanns did in a million years.

 

[Bluecube]

If I put my address up here, told you when the doors are unlocked, and one of you turned up and shot me, who would be responsible for my death? Me or the psycho who shot me?