Madeleine McCann cops ask Home Office for more money to continue search for missing child

The dogs found evidence of blood and a dead body in the cupboard and behind the sofa. There had been no dead bodies reported in the room prior to the family staying there.

They gave alerts; they didn't 'find evidence.'

The two dogs, one trained to detect human blood, the other the smell of dead bodies, were taken to numerous locations, but only gave alerts inside the McCanns’ holiday apartment. The cadaver dog later gave another alert signal while inside the Renault Scenic hire car that the McCanns had rented 24 days after their daughter went missing.

Analysis of hair and other fibres taken from the hire car and apartment were analysed by the UK’s Forensic Science Service. Four days after the FSS analysis was complete, the McCanns were made arguidos, with Portugese officials citing DNA evidence as one of the grounds for suspicion.

It later transpired, however, that neither the sniffer dog or DNA evidence were as watertight as some observers assumed.

Sniffer dog evidence has been the subject of research questioning its reliability, and in one US court case, a judge agreed with analysis of three cadaver dogs’ performances which found they were wrong 78 per cent, 71 per cent and 62 per cent of the time.

(Source).

The dog handler specifically stated that these alerts cannot be accepted as evidence on their own:

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent contamination. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence.

(Source).

Sniffer dogs also gave a 'scent of death' alert when presented with one of the McCanns' friends.

The incident happened in Portugal, Scotland Yard shouldn't even be investigating.

Oh, so now you're the one who decides what Scotland Yard can and can't investigate?
 
They gave alerts; they didn't 'find evidence.'



(Source).

The dog handler specifically stated that these alerts cannot be accepted as evidence on their own:



(Source).

Sniffer dogs also gave a 'scent of death' alert when presented with one of the McCanns' friends.



Oh, so now you're the one who decides what Scotland Yard can and can't investigate?

Alerts, evidence you know what I meant. They also gave alerts at the hire car. Which I believe was used to transfer the broken fridge. That's normal isn't it, your villas fridge breaks and you take it to the dump yourself.

I don't decide who Scotland Yard (the territorial police force responsible for policing most of London) (Source)investigates no.
 
yeah 11 years is a long time, if still alive she would probably not even be recognisable, and as has been pointed out there has to be a degree of fairness, I wonder how other parents of missing children feel right now knowing 11 million has already been spent on this.
 
Doesn’t really does it pal? Let’s be honest here.

The home office has jurisdiction over pretty much just England and Wales.

They don't need jurisdiction though, they're working with Portuguese authorities. It's a cross-border inquiry, there are processes and agreements in place for this sort of thing as they happen quite regularly (albeit usually not for this long).
 
But anyway, maybe if you could stick to the ideas here rather than the people posting them that would be ace. :)

Hate to tell you but if you spent more time thinking you'd realise that the ideas and people are one and the same. As for your previous post, all it does is confirm that you think far too highly of yourself.

Another for the ban list I think :D
 
Hate to tell you but if you spent more time thinking you'd realise that the ideas and people are one and the same. As for your previous post, all it does is confirm that you think far too highly of yourself.

Another for the ban list I think :D

Yes I think you should ignore me because otherwise you will just go around in circles blindly refusing to believe any ideas presented; without any ability, or even an attempt, to actually refute anything using reason or logic. You will just continue resorting to non-sequitur like "Ideas and people are the same", "you think too highly of yourself" and "ban list", as if these things somehow nullify the original points/concerns which were raised.


Furthermore, you are either being a troll or seem to have memory issues because you asked me the question first, then I responded with answer for how much thought I put into things as well as an example of my thinking. And then you accuse me of "thinking highly of myself" just because you asked me how much I thought I put into things and initially provoked me to post that. You would "think" exactly the same of yourself if you were the one banging on about the dangers of EPSIS and its subsequent enabling of highly individualised propagandisation operations, for almost a decade, and then it turned out it even affects presidential elections.

And I can assure you that isn't "thinking highly" of myself, I'm not in some sort of competition here I don't even know why you're coming up with these things as a means of discrediting unrelated ideas, I'm just here to post ideas.


So yeah It's probably better for you if you ignore me. I hope your ignorance of my posts continues to bring you bliss. :)
 
Why? The last people to see the missing/dead person alive should automatically be suspects.

Really? So if a CCTV camera operator is the last person to see someone alive just minutes before they're murdered around the corner in a dark alley, the camera operator should automatically be a suspect?

We have no idea who was the last person to see Madeleine alive, and no way of knowing until the perpetrator (or someone who knows what they did) is found.
 
They don't need jurisdiction though, they're working with Portuguese authorities. It's a cross-border inquiry, there are processes and agreements in place for this sort of thing as they happen quite regularly (albeit usually not for this long).

Only working with what I have seen on the news did the Portuguese not close their case?

Or is it a case of the Portuguese saying “oh we have found a little bit more evidence.... get us another £1million and we can carry on investigating together”?

Why invoke all these special agreements for 11 years?
 
I did some reading, and the whole thing seems dodgy, they should for sure cease the funding, its got stupid. I think at one point they should have been considered suspects at the very least as well given the accounts of the ambassador.
 
I'm in no way a conspiracy theorist and believe the explanations for Cuddle Cat, the 48 questions, sniffer dogs and so on but a part of me thinks that money keeps getting thrown at this because the Cops think they are guilty.
 
... uk law doesn’t name suspects in the way Portugese law does. You very well know this. It might not be said out loud, it certainly won’t be released to the press or public.
I too now wonder if this keeps going, on and on, hoping that some clearly psychological traits come to the fore, and people incriminate themselves, confess, or a body turns up, and that allows more physically evidence.

I wonder too if the cops think they are guilty.
 
Really? So if a CCTV camera operator is the last person to see someone alive just minutes before they're murdered around the corner in a dark alley, the camera operator should automatically be a suspect?

I've seen some reaching before to win an argument but that takes the biscuit lol :D

talk about misunderstanding a point :D
 
it's been 11years how can they have not exhausted all leads already... makes no sense to continue any investigation.

this crap went on for far to long, wasted too much money that could have been used elsewhere

one news article claims the find maddie fund still has 720k :rolleyes:
Have they looked in the bed frame?
 
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