[MAFIA] The Thirteen Doctors

Yeah potentially the last few Brabbinho voters could be suspicious (Leprechaun and Pookie)

I've looked back through my notes but Brabbinho didn't seem to have any clear allies (and likely the mafia were staying apart anyway)
 
That's a double result! The death of iviv is a benefit to everyone except for iviv.

We next need to focus on those who didn't vote for Brabbinho. Whilst some of them will have genuine reasons for doing do I'd expect there to be at least one and more than likely 2 scum amongst those names. For reference those people are:

Killswitch
Chriscubed
Shorttricky
Psymonkee

In my opinion we have to agree on and lynch someone from that list today. I'm getting ready for work ATM so will post my thoughts on all 4 later today when I get a quiet period.

I sense by psymonkees double facepalm post that he just missed the vote and would have hammered given the choice . however that is twice now
 
Hmm, that does look pretty dodgy for me. I dropped the hammer on Brabbinho and pushed for iviv to go down yesterday. That said, it's a simple conclusion to draw and I'd like to think if I was mafia I'd be not so bleeding obvious! Even pointing a little finger is a stupid thing to do - and I'm argumentative and opinionated in this game, not dense :D

Personally, knowing what I know (that I'm town-aligned), it was a poor choice if the attempt was to discredit me. The rest of you may feel differently, but that's your call based on the fact I've no way to prove what I am.

As to what this means for the town, I would suggest that we consider what iviv was saying in his list of suspects. Was this accurate and the mafia were scared he would lead the hunt for them, or are they hoping we'll think like that and focus on the people iviv was suspicious of? I believe it's the latter. Of course, plenty more discussion would be appropriate at this stage.
 
Up to around 22:45. Chris hasn't weighed in on this Brabbinho thing yet which I find strange. Must be busy.

I'm sorry I missed Tuesday night. Most Tuesdays I go round to a friend's (or the pub) and play cards, but I knew I would be back for the 11.30 deadline. I was trying to follow the thread on my phone but would've been rude for me to type out a proper post. I left just before 11pm with 5 votes on him and intended to vote when I got home, but by the time I was home 10 minutes later the hammer was down and I couldn't post! :(

This changes a LOT of things. Firstly, and I realise it doesn't make me look very clever here, but I now believe Shami to be town. From what I can see Shami brought up the Brabbinho subject before iviv even started the vote, so he wasn't just joining the bandwagon.
 
Yeah potentially the last few Brabbinho voters could be suspicious (Leprechaun and Pookie)

I've looked back through my notes but Brabbinho didn't seem to have any clear allies (and likely the mafia were staying apart anyway)

I can assure you I'm not scum why would I jump on 6th ensuring he would be hammered? there were 5 other people left to drop the hammer and vote 6th
 
I'll not put words in Psymonkee's mouth, but I think that might have been at Shamikebab's photo.

That was my interpretation too. Still Psymonkee afaik hasn't actually voted yet and his contribution has been very minimal. Granted he's been ill but still, it's something to consider definitely.

I can assure you I'm not scum why would I jump on 6th ensuring he would be hammered? there were 5 other people left to drop the hammer and vote 6th

Very true, as I said it's not clear it's just something to consider that a mafia member might accept the inevitable and try to gain some credibility. I would only really expect it from someone who was already under suspicion in the first place and you aren't really.
 
That was my interpretation too. Still Psymonkee afaik hasn't actually voted yet and his contribution has been very minimal. Granted he's been ill but still, it's something to consider definitely.

Quite frankly unless Psymonkee does something to convince me otherwise my vote is going to him.
 
So:

Psymonkee - He's basically done nothing all game, has barely contributed and and not voted once. On day 1 he claimed he would have voted for chriscubed had he voted but I wouldn't give any weight to that. He also gave the impression that he was likely to bring down the hammer on Brabbinho but was beaten to the punch. Has given reasons of a combination of illness and work for his lack of activity, plus he wasn't particularly enthusiastic about joining in this game anyway. I'm inclined to believe him so far simply because the alternative is that he is scum who is deliberately not getting involved whilst using personal reasons as cover which strikes me as an underhand strategy which would be outside the spirit of the game and I don't want to believe that Si would play like that. Verdict - probably town

chriscubed - I've not read too much into his posts yet as I've been sure of his town status all game. I now need to go back and carry out a more rigorous assessment of his involvement in the interests of being thorough. I did notice last night that he was reading the forum but not getting involved and was not sure why. He has preempted my suspicion regarding this bt posting an explanation before the issue has been raised, not sure whether that's honesty or a guilty conscience as yet. Verdict - probably town, possibly scum. To be reviewed.

shorttricky - Has not played a particularly strong town game but appears to be inexperienced and learning which may explain this. Has focussed almost entirely on Leprechaun and Pookie, such a focussed attack doesn't strike me as a scum strategy. Also publically stated a suspicion of Brabbinho before the bandwagon got rolling yesterday. Verdict - probably town.

K1LLSW1TCH - I called him out as scum yesterday (see post 573 for my reasoning) and was voting for him until switching to Brabbinho. I still think he is the most likely to be scum from this list and is my recommendation for lynching. Verdict - High probability of scum.

##vote K1LLSW1TCH

With regard to those who did vote for Brabbinho, I've no interest in starting a witchhunt just yet but I am keeping an open mind. My post 697 yesterday was an honest post with a number of possible outcomes from which I hoped to learn more. At that point I genuinely believed that those who had voted Brabbinho up until that point were not scum. My post was intended to garner the following reactions:

If Brabbinho was scum:
Townies would look at the names of who had voted for him, draw their own conclusions and hopefull agree with my judgement and vote for the lynch
Scum would feel a temptation to vote one the lynch looked likely to succeed in order to save their own ass once Brabbinho was flipped

If Brabbinho was town:
Scum who had been reluctant to vote would have jumped on the bandwagon, being able to use my post as a defence once Brabbinho flipped town. My reaction should a couple of suspicious names have bought this would have been to withdraw my vote in an attempt to save Brabbinho, then point the finger at those who had reacted.
 
I'm busy all morning today. But good result on the lynch and NK.

Agree with the general sentiments posted so far. But will conduct my own analysis later when I have time.
 
So:

chriscubed - I've not read too much into his posts yet as I've been sure of his town status all game. I now need to go back and carry out a more rigorous assessment of his involvement in the interests of being thorough. I did notice last night that he was reading the forum but not getting involved and was not sure why. He has preempted my suspicion regarding this bt posting an explanation before the issue has been raised, not sure whether that's honesty or a guilty conscience as yet. Verdict - probably town, possibly scum. To be reviewed.

Fair enough, I would encourage you and others to re-read if you have any doubts. I posted because I realised as soon as I missed the vote on Tuesday it would look bad - but I've given you an honest account of what happened, so that if you're interested you can inspect what I say before any words are put into my mouth. How do you tell if people are reading the thread by the way?

I agree with you about K1LLSW1TCH being a possibility, I had him as Neutral in my last read list so will need to re-read before I consider joining you.
 
How do you tell if people are reading the thread by the way?

On the forum view there is a list at the bottom of users browsing this forum. As it's a quiet forum the list is mostly populated by people involved in the game. It's no guarantee that they're reading this thread but it's still good information. It's also pretty worthless if people are logged out (which I usually am when browsing from work, I only log in to post and don't bother setting it to stay logged in. It prevents me wasting too much time on the forums during the day as I will only post if it's important enough that I can be bothered to log in)
 
On the forum view there is a list at the bottom of users browsing this forum. As it's a quiet forum the list is mostly populated by people involved in the game. It's no guarantee that they're reading this thread but it's still good information. It's also pretty worthless if people are logged out (which I usually am when browsing from work, I only log in to post and don't bother setting it to stay logged in. It prevents me wasting too much time on the forums during the day as I will only post if it's important enough that I can be bothered to log in)

That's very useful Kaiowas, thanks for that. I hadn't realised there was one at the bottom of each forum.
 
I'm still catching up on yesterday, but well played guys.

I'm assuming a scum-aligned vanilla meant Brab was just a normal mafia?

im pretty sure for townie is say town aligned, so i would assume scum-aligned is standard mafia

yeah here
Fortyseven (The Second Doctor), Town-Aligned Cop has decided to go regenerate somewhere else!
town aligned
 
Also if you have the forum tab open but leave your PC on I think you stay there

Unless you have some kind of auto refresh add-on in place your browser will have no way of sending data back to the site to tell it that you're still viewing. I'd assume that the forum software would time you out after a period of not seeing any activity from you so you'd drop of the list after a while as it has no way of knowing whether you still have the page open or whether you have closed your browser and shut your computer down.
 
Had a little time for a quick analysis of the four who didn't vote:

Killswitch - I had him as quite neutral, but he did take a similar stance to Brabbinho over the whole Shami thing, enough to make me believe there is a possible triangle there. His posts have had a little more value than Brabbinho's though. Still Neutral but possible scum
Chriscubed - Less certain than I was that he is town, his inactivity towards the end of the day was strange. Given his very active involvement on day 1. But then equally he wasn't defending Brabbinho either. Probably town.
Shorttricky - I've always had Shortttricky down as town, but this is entirely based on something he said about the mafia role, so it is a fairly weak reasoning. However he hasn't raised suspicions for me. Probably town
Psymonkee - Least sure due to his inactivity, however he has done very little that is pro-town apart from 1 long analysis post. His anti-town behaviour is quite simply his inactivity and lack of voting. Possible scum.

I still have my suspicions on Shami, he joined the voting early enough to ensure it didn't look too suspicious and before it became too much of a danger of Brabbinho going.

So that is my take on things. If we just focus on the four who didn't vote which I believe give us a higher chance of finding scum then right now it's between Psymonkee and Killswitch, in that order I'd probably be happy to vote either if there was a consensus.
 
I'd forgotten Killswitch defended me. I'm not sure why mafia would have done that as it lead to a stalemate no lynch situation until we went for Brabbinho.

As Chris mentioned I explained my suspicions of Brabbinho before a single vote was made for him. Why would I have done that AND voted for him if i was mafia? :confused:
 
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