[MAFIA] The Thirteen Doctors

shorttricky · 16 Mar 2014 at 22:38

chriscubed said:
The main question I have is that what is the likely number of roles? If we have more claimed roles than we think is likely, then 1 of the claimants is probably lying. Also there could still be unclaimed roles.

We haven't just claimed a role though, we've told you our names as well. The mafia guys weren't doctors, they were the War Chief and the Valeyard.

No-one's challenged us and said that we used their name. I know there's a chance of getting it right, but it's a pretty low one.

chriscubed · 16 Mar 2014 at 22:56

Psymonkee said:
Do you have a link to the post I didn't reply? Maybe I can shed some more light on it?

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chriscubed said:
Not sure how this is useful to us. How come you didn't visit iviv on either night after he claimed he was going to be NK'd?

We know iviv wasn't bulletproof (or at least his role didn't say so) so he could have been protected by a jailkeeper or doctor on the first night, so you could potentially have confirmed a mafioso and a townie with one watch

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chriscubed said:
I have concerns over Psymonkee claiming the Watcher role, with practically zero information just to save his skin from the lynch, only to get NK'd tonight - what's the point? Zero information means there's also no chance of anyone proving him wrong.

If he is town, will the mafia leave him alone tonight so we waste our lynch on him tomorrow? Or will they kill him in case he gets any real information tonight?

The main question is why you didn't watch iviv? Secondly, why did you claim with no votes on you and no information?

Egon · 17 Mar 2014 at 07:15

Well we need to make some sort of decision. Do we stick with one of Psy and Short, or look elsewhere.

We haven't heard from Pookie since the result either.

Pudney · 17 Mar 2014 at 07:36

I'm still interested in Pookies suspicion of me, it's timing was curious.

Pookie Bear · 17 Mar 2014 at 09:06

Sorry fellas, I was on my stag do this weekend - so I've been recovering!

As for you, Pudney (and just for the record - I clearly said it was either you or K1LLSW1TCH - not just you), my suspicion was based on looking over the reaction to the sudden shift in vote to Brabbinho on the day he was lynched. In your responses, you and K1LLSW1TCH were prominent in your unhappiness. I looked further back through the thread to see if you two had supported each before and in fact found that you'd had a little tete-a-tete early on in the game - and your comments about one another were not really lame enough to be mafia having a mock tiff - it was genuinely two people arguing. So, that lead me to think that one of you was mafia - but you had never pointed the finger at me and K1LLSW1TCH had (for a very poor reason) - so I went for him instead - and my decision was vindicated.

chriscubed · 17 Mar 2014 at 09:12

shorttricky said:
We haven't just claimed a role though, we've told you our names as well. The mafia guys weren't doctors, they were the War Chief and the Valeyard.

No-one's challenged us and said that we used their name. I know there's a chance of getting it right, but it's a pretty low one.

Fair point. I'm the 7th doctor. If everyone does this we may be able to narrow down the search for the remaining scum!

Egon · 17 Mar 2014 at 09:36

This plan seems somewhat flawed but OK. I am the 11th Doctor

Leprechaun312 · 17 Mar 2014 at 10:18

3rd doctor and just for reference I'm vanilla town, don't have a special role

Shamikebab · 17 Mar 2014 at 10:24

8th, I don't really see the point in this though.

Pookie Bear · 17 Mar 2014 at 13:09

I'm the 13th Doctor.

That said, anyone can just put a number down - and assuming that the mafia will post last or won't post at all is a little.... basic. As before, I need to review some more before I comment on who I think needs to dangle.

Pudney · 17 Mar 2014 at 13:11

Pookie Bear said:
Sorry fellas, I was on my stag do this weekend - so I've been recovering!

As for you, Pudney (and just for the record - I clearly said it was either you or K1LLSW1TCH - not just you), my suspicion was based on looking over the reaction to the sudden shift in vote to Brabbinho on the day he was lynched. In your responses, you and K1LLSW1TCH were prominent in your unhappiness. I looked further back through the thread to see if you two had supported each before and in fact found that you'd had a little tete-a-tete early on in the game - and your comments about one another were not really lame enough to be mafia having a mock tiff - it was genuinely two people arguing. So, that lead me to think that one of you was mafia - but you had never pointed the finger at me and K1LLSW1TCH had (for a very poor reason) - so I went for him instead - and my decision was vindicated.

My suspicion was because you fairly quickly came in after Shami and pretty much posted exactly the same suspicions. I was also curious what actions of mine caused you to suspect me. I'm not upset you have suspicions of me, but I do want to know reasonings, it's all too easy for a mafia to start a town lynch by claiming suspicion of someone with no backup and let the town do the dirty work.

4th.

Pookie Bear · 17 Mar 2014 at 14:37

Pudney said:
My suspicion was because you fairly quickly came in after Shami and pretty much posted exactly the same suspicions. I was also curious what actions of mine caused you to suspect me. I'm not upset you have suspicions of me, but I do want to know reasonings, it's all too easy for a mafia to start a town lynch by claiming suspicion of someone with no backup and let the town do the dirty work.

4th.

Well, I hope my reasonings have made my position a bit clearer. Now that my suspicions have been shown true, I no longer have a reason to doubt you. Whether it's enough for the two other loons (apart from K1LL) who have tried to get me killed remains to be seen!

Egon · 17 Mar 2014 at 16:09

If we can't decide on Psy or Short, what are everyone's opinion on the rest?

Chriscubed - Burst out of the blocks on day 1 but nowhere near as active recently. Didn't vote Brab but did vote killswitch, although joined in at the 4th vote. Neutral
Leprechaun - Voted for both, I've had a feeling from early on he is probably town. Would take a very brave man to drop the hammer on his partner! Although would be an exceptional cover if he did and he has made a couple of blunders and felt the need to explain his actions on a few occasions.
Shamikebab - Can't explain why but I've always had my suspicions about Shami. Might be his playstyle or because he was mafia in the last game. However his actions say otherwise. So very likely town.
Pookie Bear - Haven't got much of a read on Pookie so he is neutral to me
Pudney - Joined the voting very late, when the realisation was that Killswitch was going and a cover story was needed. Neutral

chriscubed · 17 Mar 2014 at 16:39

Egon said:
This plan seems somewhat flawed but OK. I am the 11th Doctor

Shamikebab said:
8th, I don't really see the point in this though.

Pookie Bear said:
I'm the 13th Doctor.

That said, anyone can just put a number down - and assuming that the mafia will post last or won't post at all is a little.... basic. As before, I need to review some more before I comment on who I think needs to dangle.

Given that we've had people claim 11th and 13th now it probably is useless. I was hoping it would be numbered 1 to 9 or 10, then we would have to have duplicates. That said, Psy and Short (and I) didn't know this when they claimed their numbers, so could indicate that they are town.

shorttricky · 17 Mar 2014 at 16:52

Egon said:
If we can't decide on Psy or Short, what are everyone's opinion on the rest?

Chriscubed - Burst out of the blocks on day 1 but nowhere near as active recently. Didn't vote Brab but did vote killswitch, although joined in at the 4th vote. Neutral
Leprechaun - Voted for both, I've had a feeling from early on he is probably town. Would take a very brave man to drop the hammer on his partner! Although would be an exceptional cover if he did and he has made a couple of blunders and felt the need to explain his actions on a few occasions.
Shamikebab - Can't explain why but I've always had my suspicions about Shami. Might be his playstyle or because he was mafia in the last game. However his actions say otherwise. So very likely town.
Pookie Bear - Haven't got much of a read on Pookie so he is neutral to me
Pudney - Joined the voting very late, when the realisation was that Killswitch was going and a cover story was needed. Neutral

If I survive today, I'm going to have to take my shot tonight - so this kind of analysis is much appreciated

Shamikebab · 17 Mar 2014 at 16:53

Here's how I feel about the remaining players:

02 Pookie Bear - Probably town. I've had a feeling he is town all the way through and I doubt both him and Killswitch would have backed me if they were mafia.
05 Egon - Probably town, no suspicions from me really.
07 Pudney - Unknown, even though he voted for both Brabbinho and Killswitch something is still bugging me about him

08 Leprechaun312 - Probably town
10 shorttricky - Possible scum
11 chriscubed - Probably town, I've had my suspicions throughout but I think he is probably town.
13 Psymonkee - Possible scum

But then this very frank posting from Psymonkee and Shorttricky has left me at a bit of a loss tbh!

Pudney · 17 Mar 2014 at 18:09

Egon said:
Pudney - Joined the voting very late, when the realisation was that Killswitch was going and a cover story was needed. Neutral

Possibly late in relation to the voting, but not late in comparison to the actual deadline!

Egon · 17 Mar 2014 at 18:20

I feel the same about Pudney - not sure what it is but something doesn't sit right with me.

If Short really is a vigilante we could test that out tonight if we all agree on a target. There is no way of getting away from that. We have no way of knowing if Psy is being honest about his role however.

Shamikebab · 17 Mar 2014 at 18:23

Either one of them isn't being honest or someone on our 'safe' list has been pretty clever.

I have a question regarding roles, for the roles that tell you if someone has done something in the night, will it only tell you about the mafia that called in the night kill or will it tell you if any of them went somewhere at night?

Leprechaun312 · 17 Mar 2014 at 18:57

Shamikebab said:
I have a question regarding roles, for the roles that tell you if someone has done something in the night, will it only tell you about the mafia that called in the night kill or will it tell you if any of them went somewhere at night?

i assume it will tell you their actions, if e.g. psy left his house to go watch short and he went and shot jedi, i assume psy would be told that short left his house and maybe it might say that psy followed short to jedi's house, who was then found shot the next day????? i assume it would be something along those lines, and if he followed a mafia then the same would occur. so if they didnt leave their house, then they havent done any night actions