[MAFIA] The Thirteen Doctors

From Psy's description of his role, he watches an individual and sees if anyone visits them. You don't get to see what they did, or what info they took, so in that respect it is quite limited. Unless you hit the jackpot and watch whoever gets NK'd. Then you're in business.

That was my understanding anyway.
 
Egon said:
If Short really is a vigilante we could test that out tonight if we all agree on a target
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If that's the plan, I'd suggest that we have a couple of targets. I'm wary of roles that could interfere, and I'd like to make it harder to stop me.

Shamikebab said:
Either one of them isn't being honest or someone on our 'safe' list has been pretty clever.
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This is what makes me think there are 4 mafia. Sacrificing 2 wouldn't be as big a deal. If there's 3...well, I don't really know :D. I guess the mafia could have balls of steel.

Shamikebab said:
I have a question regarding roles, for the roles that tell you if someone has done something in the night, will it only tell you about the mafia that called in the night kill or will it tell you if any of them went somewhere at night?
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What you see depends on the role, but I don't think they distinguish between mafia or town visits.
 
Leprechaun312 said:
i assume it will tell you their actions, if e.g. psy left his house to go watch short and he went and shot jedi, i assume psy would be told that short left his house and maybe it might say that psy followed short to jedi's house, who was then found shot the next day????? i assume it would be something along those lines, and if he followed a mafia then the same would occur. so if they didnt leave their house, then they havent done any night actions
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I doubt if it is that detailed.

He said he watched you and got nothing back so that means no one visited you.

He would more than likely see:

"Killswitch visited Iviv during the night."
 
Egon said:
That is asking a bit much of the town - we're struggling to decided on a lynch, let alone 2 possible targets for a vigilante! :p
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I agree, also we've already lynched a scum with the roleblocker ability and the doctor has died, so unless we also have something else like a jailkeeper who wants to mess things up then we should be good?
 
Vote Shorttricky

I think it's our best lead at the minute if he does turn out to be town then it might give us enough information for tomorrow. Unless anyone else has a convincing case not to go for him or to go for someone else.
 
Actually it's flawed. Thinking about it, the mafia could interfere with the vigilante NK without any special roles, so deciding now would mean the mafia could paint Short as mafia when he isn't, or if he is mafia then could hide behind the flaw. Better if Short just shoots who he thinks is scum (don't announce it first), but you still can't prove you're the vigilante if the mafia don't want you to.

I would prefer an extension. If we can come to a consensus early then fine, but there's not been that much activity (myself included!) in this game day.
 
Egon said:
I feel the same about Pudney - not sure what it is but something doesn't sit right with me.

If Short really is a vigilante we could test that out tonight if we all agree on a target. There is no way of getting away from that. We have no way of knowing if Psy is being honest about his role however.
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If you have suspicions then interrogate me. As far as I'm concerned posting vague suspicions or niggles is far more mafia. At least Pookies has been able to add some reasoning.

So Shami and Egon, let me hear what I've done to cause your "suspicion".
 
Yeah this day has been quiet, I've done a post count since the night to see if it sheds any light:

Egon - 17
Shorttricky - 8
Shamikebab - 7
Leprechaun - 7
Chriscubed - 6
Pudney - 5
Pookie Bear - 3
Psymonkee - 2
 
I don't see how posting suspicions is mafia behaviour, it is trying to encourage discussion and in the end is how we got both Brabbinho AND Killswitch. Your aggressive defense is if anything more suspicious, especially considering how little you've posted today. The content you have posted is questioning why people are suspicious of you rather than sharing any insights you have towards the rest of the town.
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We need more time I think, let's vote for an extension.
 
Shamikebab said:
I don't see how posting suspicions is mafia behaviour, it is trying to encourage discussion and in the end is how we got both Brabbinho AND Killswitch. Your aggressive defense is if anything more suspicious, especially considering how little you've posted today. The content you have posted is questioning why people are suspicious of you rather than sharing any insights you have towards the rest of the town.
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We need more time I think, let's vote for an extension.
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I have no problems with suspicions based on something. So I'm asking you for something.

Need I remind you of your long drawn out argument with Chris and Iviv where you were upset they had suspicions of you? Hypocritical?

The reason suspicions with no basis at this stage is more likely to be mafia is that it breeds discontent for no arguable reason, and discontent is what the mafia want.
 
Oh, and considering you think my response is aggressive and suspicious, again what's changed in your reasoning for this considering you did the same?
 
Shamikebab said:
So you're saying you are suspicious of me? Or Egon? Why?
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I've already said. For posting suspicion with no reasonings. It creates conflict and help detracts from the townies work if they get involved. If you'd given a reason I would have addressed it and moved on. Like I did with Pookie. He had a reason.
 
And I've explained it provokes discussion. If me and Egon weren't posting the town would have been almost silent today, how does that help us?

Very few people are sharing their feelings and anyone that is quiet at this stage is not helping the town.
 
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