It is in sport. Denied
2) To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
To F1 rules, he de not break any rules or cheat. It really is as simple as that.
Malaysian Grand Prix 2013, Kuala Lumpur - Race 2/19
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It is in sport. Denied
2) To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.
To F1 rules, he de not break any rules or cheat. It really is as simple as that.
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Did the stewards have a siesta during the race? There were several unsafe releases in the pits, only one of them caught their eye, and that was immediately said to be decided after the race.
I thought they only delayed decisions to post race when it happens within the last few laps, not in the first 15
From Ted they got a 10k fine, which seems, minimal, I'm not really sure, I think its very harsh to punish the driver for it as he's completely blind and has to trust the team, but when you damage another car and push that guy further back, is a 10k fine really enough?
As you say though I thought needing to wait till after the race was pathetic, and while its not fair on the driver, a fine is daft and no real punishment for the team, 10k fine in a season spending over 100mil is a joke, and hurting another teams potential points tally.
No it isn't just about rules, demonstrated by the fact your definition is the second definition of the word. End of.
Unless you feel he acted completely honestly, it absolutely 100% can be said that cheated. No argument, his behaviour fits the definition of the word absolutely perfectly.
Give it a rest for christ's sake. Sport or otherwise, he gained an unfair advantage on Webber and you know it.
In respect of the rules of the game, he didn't cheat. That is clear. He didn't break any rules (there isnt a rule that says "once a team order is given a driver must follow it").
In terms of gamesmanship and fairness of the team, yes he did cheat and pull a fast one on his team mate.
In terms of gamesmanship and fairness of the team, yes he did cheat and pull a fast one on his team mate.
He broke the teams rules\orders that was put in place BEFORE the race so yes he cheated in the teams eyes.
Those are the FACTS not your opinion
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No, words have multiple meaning depending on context, hence many definitions. So no it's not as easy as you say.
In sport, you are only a cheater if rules have been broken. They haven't, end off.
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Has there been any interview with Alonso at all? Did he choose not to go in, or did the team not call him in, completely embarrasing for them, it was plain as day he had to come in. Obviously the team can see the wing and know its screwed and should have been telling him to slow on the straights anyway as high downforce was going to be an issue, but did Alonso refuse to come in because he assumed it wasn't bad enough or the team didn't tell him?
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Wonder what the reaction would've been in here if Webber had done it to Vettel? 
Pretty easy to answer
Pretty easy to answer
No, you are wrong. You can be a cheat without breaking explicit rules, sport or otherwise.
His behaviour today fits the word perfectly.
At the time, they thought they might of been waiting till dry tyre could work, which could have only been a lap of two. If the wing stayed on it would off saved a bunch of time.
Bad choice in the end as it fell off.
Wonder what the reaction would've been in here if Webber had done it to Vettel?
Pretty easy to answer
Webber wouldn't have done it because he's not that type of guy.
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A winner?
Webber doesn't have multi championships or the contract to do it.
So you'll never know what he would do when the visor is down.
Wonder what the reaction would've been in here if Webber had done it to Vettel?
Pretty easy to answer
Everyone would have loved it, because it would be seen as him getting his own back.
Us Brits and our underdog complex..
Edit: though I agree webber would have honoured the team order, so it's a slightly moot point.
I agree with you, telling a racing driver to slow down is just nonsensical. But you have to remember, if you're harder on fuel, you'll require more => increased weight. But at least it would allow the driver to show his max potential, I'd say Hamilton gets very frustrated when hears "Lewis, conserve fuel please." on the radio.To me that is the teams fault for not putting enough fuel in. Bring back refuelling I say.
Anyway well done Merc let's keep this up
I apply the same logic to the top four today. They were all told not to race, despite it being the purpose of the sport. Frustrating to watch, but it is a team sport, and 9/10, the risk is not worth it.
Rather than bring back refulling,
Can we have fixed amount and alow keys and engine development. Can we get some tech back into f1 rather than millions spent in wind tunnels changing a part of a wing by half a mm, to extra a tiny bit more downforce.
Would also make it relevant to the direction of the world and car industry as a whole.
Can we have fixed amount and alow keys and engine development. Can we get some tech back into f1 rather than millions spent in wind tunnels changing a part of a wing by half a mm, to extra a tiny bit more downforce.
Would also make it relevant to the direction of the world and car industry as a whole.