What time does it rain over there? they are probably trying to spice up the show
Hi, 17:00...
Malaysian Grand Prix 2013, Kuala Lumpur - Race 2/19
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Hi, 17:00...
Because the race would be on at 5am in Europe, rather than 8am.
Interesting they seem to think European TV times are important, but couldnt give 2 ticks about European races
Melbournes been threatened that it needs to move to a night race or risk loosing its spot. The Singapore night race was driven by the European TV audience. Most of the eastern races are being pushed to move to later start times.
Also, the 4 hour hard limit is from the green light. If they delay the actual start of the race, the 4 hour limit moves with it.
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I don't know whether to believe this or not. On the one hand Mclaren executives were saying well before testing that they expected the season would start slowly for the team and that they may indeed be on the back foot compared to the other usual front running contenders.
But then, the car is further off the pace than what Mclaren had expected.
They made this car so that the development potential would be increased exponentially and made it clear that they would have hit a dead end in terms of the development race regarding the MP4-27.
I still think Mclaren will be trying better and working uber hard to understand the car they have built for this year, as they've said it has a very high potential and better downforce.
Lewis won the last GP of the season (Abu Dhabi that year I think)... I remember that season well obviously with Jenson winning the WDC.
It is true that they definitely improved greatly towards the end of the season but it was too late on.
I just don't think it's going to be anything like that again, they know they need a performing car well before the Summer break and if they don't have one near that time they'll have to do something drastic.
This is key to me. A major influence in turning the Ferrari last year into a title contender was Alonso. McLaren, who are in a very similar position of a complex car they don't understand and a switch to pullrod front suspension, don't have a driver who can do this. They don't even have Pedro any more.
Are you guys really saying that Lewis would have achieved better in Qualifying and the race in Aus?
Alonso can grab any car by the scruff of it's neck and ring the absolute maximum out of it I'll grant that, but he too was nowhere in Qualifying for the 2012 Aussie GP.
Ferrari developed decently from that race onwards, the car was still adrift but it definitely improved considerably towards Brazil from that second Qualifying session in Australia.
No. I'm saying Lewis would be better at helping the team develop the car, like Alonso. Not as good as, Alonsos attitude was great, but better than Button, who seems to go AWOL when the car isnt setup right, and Perez who is not experienced or confident enough to drive development yet.
Its not about getting results in a bad car, its about helping the team fix it. McLaren, to me at least, are particularly badly geared up for this. Paddy is gone, Lewis is gone, Pedro is gone.
Its not about getting results in a bad car, its about helping the team fix it. McLaren, to me at least, are particularly badly geared up for this. Paddy is gone, Lewis is gone, Pedro is gone.
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It is a good job that Mclaren have lots of engineers to handle developing the car then.
Do people really believe that in addition to somehow being able to drive cars faster than they are capable of going that Alonso/Hamilton also design and build the cars?
Last year the Ferrari was a reasonably quick car that was tricky to handle. This year the Mclaren just looks slow. There isn't anything that a driver can do about that.
Mclaren's decision to introduce such big changes a year before the new regs does seem strange. Especially moving to a high nose when next year the noses will be low again. Perhaps their new suspension is transferable.
Qualifying for definite.
People overstate how much race car drivers in F1 'develope' a car. CS Nuts made mention once of how limited the feedback is from their drivers and yet for some magical reason their car has been the one to have for 4 years.
All they do is provide feedback on where a car is working and where it isn't. All the solutions, ideas and design is from people who can type a sentence that isn't in text speak
I can't remember it happening for years. I can remember Ferrari running the previous years car for the first few races, but thats not really the same thing.
You have to go back quite a way to find a team who ran the same chassis for at least 2 whole seasons (early 90's?), and even further back I would imagine for someone to have swapped from new to old and then back to new again? Possibly even back to the days of the fan car and things when new stuff turned up and was banned forcing people back to the old one?
You have to go back quite a way to find a team who ran the same chassis for at least 2 whole seasons (early 90's?), and even further back I would imagine for someone to have swapped from new to old and then back to new again? Possibly even back to the days of the fan car and things when new stuff turned up and was banned forcing people back to the old one?
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Qualifying for definite.
People overstate how much race car drivers in F1 'develope' a car. CS Nuts made mention once of how limited the feedback is from their drivers and yet for some magical reason their car has been the one to have for 4 years.
All they do is provide feedback on where a car is working and where it isn't. All the solutions, ideas and design is from people who can type a sentence that isn't in text speak
People definitely overstate how much drivers help develop the car in most cases, here people are more talking about getting the most out of those developments. For instance what happens if RBR bring a piece to the car, and it actually improves the cars speed in corners WITH the right setup, but makes it less driveable with the wrong setup. If the driver goes around and says, that new part isn't hooking up right, put more downforce on, because that driver takes a less aggressive line through the corner or something, then the car ends up not benefitting from the new part.
A driver who can change how he drives the car, can adapt to a new setup and who can find a new optimal setup with minimal fuss is pretty crucial for getting the most out of development of the car.
Again I'll point out ALonso and Hamilton stood out massively at the new race last year,one bit of the track where everyone in practice was going wide/too fast and weren't getting it right all through practice, Hamilton/ALonso came out and got the corner right first time. everyone else was in and out making change after change after the installation lap, going pretty slow to start, and speeding up a little each lap. Hamilton/Alonso came out, got the corner right first time around and went fastest overall straight away, and stayed a couple of the quickest cars on track all weekend. They just with minimal fuss, installation lap, felt how to set up the car, did so, were instantly hooked up with very few mistakes compared to everyone else.
Button all last year was complaining about everything every race, then half way through the season their fix was for all intents and purposes, Jenson can't find anything like the right setup, Hamilton could, use Hamilton's setup, and he improved.
Having a guy who can't find the right setup to make the car work, makes testing new bits and looking for improvements VERY difficult, and this is why, as with Button's excuses last year, "we don't know why its not working"... yeah, well a lot of us do, Button's a bit of an incompetant boob. These were the same things he was saying last year "I don't know why its not working, I can't work out the tyres", while no one else had a real problem, including the driver on the other side of the garage.
THink of it this way, if Mclarens testing guys come up with the best possible wing for that chassis, and Button can't get it working(but hypothetically there is a way to set it up to work great), then the team starts to move away from the optimum wing setup, because they change their thinking of whats best, thats not good, even worse is, if you make the best wing possible... then start making a new one, its time wasted on other things.
