Malaysian Grand Prix 2014, Kuala Lumpur - Race 2/19
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Soldato
It has everything to do with it.
The limit is 100Kg of fuel used during the race. The cars can carry more than so they can provide the required sample at the end of the race.
The percentage and amount of fuel allowed in the regulations are base 100. Ergo they're the same.
9.9% of 100Kg is still 9.9Kg.
FIA don't know the fuel load, just the consumption. Which is limited to 100Kg over the race distance by regulation at a maximum of 100Kg/hour.
Soldato
back to back races 
Hope for another Lewis\Merc win.
Hope for another Lewis\Merc win.
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The only way they can realistically do percentage is assuming everyone has 100kg, in that regard kg/percentage are interchangeable.
IE the data from fuel flow says car X has used 85kg, the only way you can display this as a percentage without actually knowing fuel load, is to assume it's 100KG, in which case you display 85% used, which in effect is telling you 85kg's used. That is the only way I can see them doing it.
In reality that 85kg used could be 85% or 90% of their fuel used. Unless the teams are telling people how much fuel they used, which I don't think is true at all.
I think over the course of the season we'll see roughly speaking which cars under fill, which don't, and have a better idea of where cars are fuel usage wise. At a guess, Renault cars are putting in noticeably more fuel, and it means for the few really fuel limited races then Merc engine cars have a larger amount of extra fuel they can use than Renault cars. Still aussie is third highest on fuel usage and RBR didn't have much of an issue with overall fuel usage
IE the data from fuel flow says car X has used 85kg, the only way you can display this as a percentage without actually knowing fuel load, is to assume it's 100KG, in which case you display 85% used, which in effect is telling you 85kg's used. That is the only way I can see them doing it.
In reality that 85kg used could be 85% or 90% of their fuel used. Unless the teams are telling people how much fuel they used, which I don't think is true at all.
I think over the course of the season we'll see roughly speaking which cars under fill, which don't, and have a better idea of where cars are fuel usage wise. At a guess, Renault cars are putting in noticeably more fuel, and it means for the few really fuel limited races then Merc engine cars have a larger amount of extra fuel they can use than Renault cars. Still aussie is third highest on fuel usage and RBR didn't have much of an issue with overall fuel usage
Not if each team uses the maximum.
The graphic has to be based on 100kilos as they dont have that information. So 1% = 1 kilo. As the fuel flow measure amount if fuel not a percentage. There is no way for them to show a percentage they dont have the information needed. Unless they assume 100kilos.
So 1% has to equal 1kilo.
The only difference is when it says 90% they've used 90kilos. But they might not have had the full 400kilo limit. so you don't know is there's 1kilo of fuel in the tank left of 10kilos left.
Please learn to Read!!
No team HAS to carry all of the 100 kilos if their engine doesnt need it
So Merc could have been carrying 80 kilos at the start of the race.
So therefore 1 % of their fluel load is different to some other team using 1% of 95kilos
FIA dont care which, but performance is considerably different
Soldato
Just LOL. 
For the third time - FIA don't know the fuel load, therefore will assume 100Kg as it's the maximum under the regulations.
I'm off to watch the BTCC, feel free to argue with yourself in my absence.
For the third time - FIA don't know the fuel load, therefore will assume 100Kg as it's the maximum under the regulations.
I'm off to watch the BTCC, feel free to argue with yourself in my absence.
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Please learn to Read!!
No team HAS to carry all of the 100 kilos if their engine doesnt need it
So Merc could have been carrying 80 kilos at the start of the race.
So therefore 1 %f their fluel load is different to some other team using 1% of 95kilos
FIA dont care which, but performance is considerably different
You learn to read. The graphic HAS to be based of 100kilo maximum.
The fuel flow sensor idps not calibrated on %.
1% = 1kilo, which ever way you cut it. The only thing is when the graphic displays they've used 90%, that does not mean they have 10% fuel left.
isit for unsafe release?
Yep, double penalty, new this season.
Soldato
Poor Ricciardo, practically a quad punishment.
Super long pitstop after being pushed back up.
Front wing fell off next lap (possibly damaged during the long stop)
Stop and go penalty
10 place grid penalty
Poor guy
Super long pitstop after being pushed back up.
Front wing fell off next lap (possibly damaged during the long stop)
Stop and go penalty
10 place grid penalty
Poor guy
Soldato
That's crazy
I want to see him keeping Vettel honest.
I want to see him keeping Vettel honest.
Retarded
yes, yes it is.
Soldato
Poor Ricciardo, practically a quad punishment.
Super long pitstop after being pushed back up.
Front wing fell off next lap (possibly damaged during the long stop)
Stop and go penalty
10 place grid penalty
Poor guy
He done the damaged on a curb.
Well they all knew about this rule so I don't see a problem but don't tell me rb has lost the page that it's on
And don't forget this rule was brought in because of the rb mistake last year.
It's good to know that with the engine turned down Lewis did the fastest lap
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