Man of Honour
Stroll might have been turning left, that much is obvious, but he was still drifting wider, as you can tell from the apex rising on the left side of the shot. Just a 50/50.
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Soldato
agree with first part of the statement; however Stroll was unaware of Vettel's presence. pretty sure that it's up to the guy changing lanes to look in his mirrors before doing so. no way to realistically expect someone to veer right on a left turn. I guess Stroll is so young he doesn't have a driver's license and doesn't know the basics of the Highway Code.
Soldato
I'm glad the new footage is out to prove that Stroll did nothing wrong. Blame lies firmly with the overtaking Vettel.
Soldato
As Spunkey said they're as much to blame as each other. Stroll moves right (or rather the turn tightens and he doesn't adjust) while Vettel moves left. Stroll is looking in his left-hand mirror at the car behind.
Soldato
How can that be anything other than Vettels fault he was just a bit dosey.
Stroll steers left Vet goes too close. Vet was behind so definitely could see Stroll and going too fast.
But who cares anyway
Stroll steers left Vet goes too close. Vet was behind so definitely could see Stroll and going too fast.
But who cares anyway
Soldato
100% Vettels fault. I hope someone points it out to him this weekend. New name for him Vettelonado 
Soldato
100% Vettels fault. I hope someone points it out to him this weekend. New name for him Vettelonado
nope max is maldonado 2.0
100% Vettels fault. I hope someone points it out to him this weekend. New name for him Vettelonado
I was just thinking this. If it wasn't for his world titles when he had by far the best car, we'd all be rolling our eyes and saying "there goes another crash from finger-boy". He'd be like Massa or Maldonado, always in trouble because they never learn, but without any WDCs.
Soldato
100% Vettel's fault. Can't see how it can be any other way, Vettel needs to be looking where he's going.
However, it's after the race, I don't think there was any point in punishing anyone over it and nobody will be.
However, it's after the race, I don't think there was any point in punishing anyone over it and nobody will be.
Caporegime
The main reason I don't want Vettel to win is that he's already the least deserving multiple F1 champion in history. Another title would put him level with the great Fangio, all while never being the best driver on track. In the current season, he's probably around 5th or 6th best out there. When he was up against Ricciardo we saw what a middling driver Vettel is; I'd love to see him take a seat next to Alonso or Hamilton and have his reputation put to bed forever.
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The difference is Vettel can see him all the way, can see Stroll's line not changing, yet steers into him, Stroll doesn't see him but when he does he steers away instantly but it's too late. What was Vettel doing for 2-3 seconds that he couldn't react to the coming impact? More importantly many/most drivers will drift off line to the dirty side of the track in the cool down lap because no one is racing, why was Vettel expecting him to be on the racing line. As for on the inside, Stroll wasn't actually on the inside line at any point, he has almost a car width inside him and it's pretty similar gap to the curb at the beginning and end of the corner.
For me this was a Rosberg incident, Vettel had the time and space to react and chose not to, because if he wanted to not make contact he had more than enough time to move over. Even in the start, he chose to go around the outside on a cool down lap when he could expect a car to not stay on the racing line and he aimed his car insanely close to Stroll. It's just absurd. Stroll did what almost every other driver does on a cool down lap, Vettel did something no one at all does on a cool down lap and that is pass on the blind side and decide to cut as close as possible to a car who doesn't know you're there.
How many penalty points is vettel on?
He's caused a crash. Took his wheel away and rode on the side of another car. All you would expect some form of punishment be it a fine or what ever.
Also I wonder how much fuel he had left. He did a very slow last lap. Maybe he didn't have enough for a sample?
He's caused a crash. Took his wheel away and rode on the side of another car. All you would expect some form of punishment be it a fine or what ever.
Also I wonder how much fuel he had left. He did a very slow last lap. Maybe he didn't have enough for a sample?
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Am I the only one who thinks the entire situation with vettel and ferrari in this race was fishy?
I dont tend to get into tin foil hat mode but it all seems a bit off to me. Vettels car was knackered. Next day he is up and running but kimi's car is knackered...........
Then an oopsy daisy accidentally on purpose event on the post race lap.............
Tell me to shut up if you want!!
I dont tend to get into tin foil hat mode but it all seems a bit off to me. Vettels car was knackered. Next day he is up and running but kimi's car is knackered...........
Then an oopsy daisy accidentally on purpose event on the post race lap.............
Tell me to shut up if you want!!
Man of Honour
You are the only poster on this forum who calls Sebastian Vettel "Vimto"No. The FIA is correct and his name on here was Vimto
Interesting seeing the footage from the Driver's Briefing. I haven't seen any since the 90s when things often got pretty heated between Senna and Balestre.