Manager Of The Season - Redknapp

Owenb said:
That's a useless stat. Spurs have an expensive squad as their big players have been bought for big money, carrick/bervatov/keane/, which they then spent.
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Why's it useless and where have I said different about why Spurs' squad is so expensive? Although Redknapp can't take credit for Spurs making big money from Berbatov etc as he wasn't at Spurs then.

How else can you judge a managers performance other than looking at their success in comparison to the resources (playing squad) they have? If it was just about success then the manager of the year would be the manager of the Champions.

Like I initially said, I'm not taking anything away from Redknapp or Spurs because it is an achievement because they've not managed it before, if nothing else but considering the squad they've got they should be expected to challenge for the CL spots at the very least.
 
Hodgson above harry, no way. It doesn't take anything like the consistency to get as far in the 2nd tier euro league as the premiership. The teams above Spurs are far better than most of the **** in the 2nd tier euro league.

Not that Hodgson hasn't done well with what he has but I don't rate the cup that highly in comparison to the top 4 in the EPL.

Not that sure though in all honesty who I would say has done the best this year.
 
Can't give Hodgson Premier League Manager of the Year, because they haven't done anything special in the Premier League. Europe, yes. League, no.

I think people are daft if they can't see why Redknapp should get it. Everyone tried to predict the Top 4 again this year, and got it wrong.
 
syke said:
7th and 8th best in Germany? One of them were the winners last season, and had the 'best' strike force in Europe with their goals combined being Dzeko and Grafite. Juventus were 2nd last season, and have still got quality players. Not only that, you didn't even mention the best team we have even played in Europe, being Shakhtar, who won the UEFA Cup last season, and play absolutely amazing football. Even then, none of the teams are 'average'.
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That's where they are in the league table.
I am not trying to take anything away from Fulham/Hodgson but I won't look at it blindly and say that beating Juv/Wolfsburg is an amazing feat as both sides have lost 13 games in their league this year. Btw: all the best in the final!

Baz: Fair enough point, I see what you are getting at.

And just to be clear, I am not saying that Hodgson wouldn't be a worthy winner but some of the people I have talked have given hodgson their own 'personal' manager of the year award without having watched a minute of UEFA cup!
 
Lonz said:
Can't give Hodgson Premier League Manager of the Year, because they haven't done anything special in the Premier League. Europe, yes. League, no.

I think people are daft if they can't see why Redknapp should get it. Everyone tried to predict the Top 4 again this year, and got it wrong.
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I dont think steering a team with the spending power of spurs into 4th spot (£376,850,000 total spend in the league which is 5th highest in the league, approx £10,000,000 a year net spend on players 4th per season in the league) is any great feat.
The fact of the matter is he has achieved the level that Spurs should be playing at with the money they have spent.
The only surprising thing about spurs is how they have continually under performed and shot themselves in the feet over the past 18 odd years.
 
Spurs have spent a lot of money to get where they are this season.

Personally, for the manager who has done the best in the League?

McLeish, As I said in another thread is worth a shout.

I'm impressed by Hodgson, he's done very well with Fulham, turning them around and what he's done in Europe this season is amazing.
 
Well if you give it to someone for what they've done in the Premier League..it's surely Ancelotti or McLeish? Ancelotti following on what the majority of the other MOTY awards have gone for (potentially) winning the league.. If you go by achievement, then McLeish.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Hodgson above harry, no way. It doesn't take anything like the consistency to get as far in the 2nd tier euro league as the premiership. The teams above Spurs are far better than most of the **** in the 2nd tier euro league.

Not that Hodgson hasn't done well with what he has but I don't rate the cup that highly in comparison to the top 4 in the EPL.

Not that sure though in all honesty who I would say has done the best this year.
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Knocked out some top teams in process to getting to the final and every goal was hard work no fluke or lucky penalty, plus they are in the CL qualifying stage, not there yet, Everton did it and the buckled under the pressure, would laugh my arse off if they failed to get into the group stages.

Lonz said:
Can't give Hodgson Premier League Manager of the Year, because they haven't done anything special in the Premier League. Europe, yes. League, no.

I think people are daft if they can't see why Redknapp should get it. Everyone tried to predict the Top 4 again this year, and got it wrong.
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4th placed consisted off Arsenal/Liverpool or City Villa Spurs and all of them have been mediocre if it was not for Spurs run against Arsenal and Chelsea then City would have had 4th.

atpbx said:
I dont think steering a team with the spending power of spurs into 4th spot (£376,850,000 total spend in the league which is 5th highest in the league, approx £10,000,000 a year net spend on players 4th per season in the league) is any great feat.
The fact of the matter is he has achieved the level that Spurs should be playing at with the money they have spent.
The only surprising thing about spurs is how they have continually under performed and shot themselves in the feet over the past 18 odd years.
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This, who was the bloke the predicted spurs top 4 in 2008 on here, the money they have been spending they should have been in the CL this season. Its only taken them 2 years and for in my eyes for City and Liverpool to blow the chance of CL football.
 
I thought Spurs would do it at the start of the season, I thought Liverpool would have run them closer though
 
Owenb said:
That's a useless stat. Spurs have an expensive squad as their big players have been bought for big money, carrick/bervatov/keane/, which they then spent.
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Maybe so, which is why one should look at net spend figures: http://transferleague.co.uk/

As you can see, Spurs net spend since 2004 (and since 1992 for that matter) is the 4th highest in the premiership.
 
cheets64 said:
Knocked out some top teams in process to getting to the final and every goal was hard work no fluke or lucky penalty, plus they are in the CL qualifying stage, not there yet, Everton did it and the buckled under the pressure, would laugh my arse off if they failed to get into the group stages..
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We didn't buckle under the pressure we had nothing but kids to play due to injuries. As soon as we got one player back another players knee would explode all over the pitch.

We don't have anything like the strength in depth to flight on anything more than the league and a dabble in the FA cup. With teams like ours, Fulham Boro our league form seems to suffer when we play in europe as well.
 
I can understand why Hodgson didn't get it as this is the 'Premier League Manager of the Season' award, but he should win some sort of 'manager of the year award' just for the sake of highlighting what a superb job he has done.
 
Love the Spurs fans altering things to fit nicely with their arguments. :p

Arsenal have been in the champions league for 13 consecutive seasons, that's a better record than Real Madrid, but because we haven't actually won any trophies since 2005 we're about to fall out of the top four, well, according to most pundits at the start of the season. Meanwhile, Spurs get 4th and suddenly that is rated much more highly than getting to a Europa Cup, FA Cup or League Cup final? :confused:
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
rated much more highly than getting to a Europa Cup, FA Cup or League Cup final? :confused:
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Surely those things are irrelevant towards the Premier League manager of the season?

I don't like Redknapp at all, I can't think of any other names that deserve this award though really, not that I think 'arry deserves it either.
 
I'm baffled by how Redknapp has won this to be honest.

Looking at the past winners:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_Manager_of_the_Year

Every manager except Burley (Guiding Ipswich Town to Europe in their first season back in the top flight) and Redknapp has won the league to win the award.

Redknapp winning it is all well and good but it's strange how the criteria for winning the award seem to have changed this year. Burley deservedly won it IMO and his achievement was far greater than Redknapp's. As others have said, Spurs are in the top 4 spending clubs in the league, they should be in the top 4!

To look at another example, Bobby Robson and Newcastle. We finished 3rd in 2002/03 and with what was (I assume) a much more modest team money-wise than Spurs. Not to mention finishing 4th in 2001/02 after having a real go at the title. The award winners in those two years? Wenger and Ferguson, both title winners. Both deserved winners but then surely Ancelotti is as well?
 
But then I think this year both Chelsea (despite winning the title) and United have underperformed. I honestly can't think of anyone deserving really.
 
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