Manchester Bombing *** Please remain respectful and refrain from antagonising posts ***

[chroniclard]

You cant just round up people who might do a terrorism, there must be evidence. The whole premise of our laws would be out the window.

 

[nick.lidgett]

You cant just round up people who might do a terrorism, there must be evidence. The whole premise of our laws would be out the window.

It would certainly be a slippery slope

 

[dalehitchy1]

Don't worry, the security services are doing a great job. It was all explained by the usual swivel eyed liberal loons on the previous page.

What the **** are you talking about. Do you hate liberals so much that you need to pull false random lies out your ****.

Most liberals have been crying out that our services are underfunded. As demonstrated by this incident and the NHS attack.

Sick of this liberal name calling now. Ironically the people that complain about it most are the ones that say 'they cant speak out because of fear of getting called a racist'

 

[darkgen]

WTH - the Americans just don't care.
Article just published in NYT website showing crime scene images!

 

[Caged]

Yeah the security services over in the US have massively dropped the ball on this one

 

[Vonhelmet]

Anybody that is on a terrorist watchlist should not be roaming the streets.

So you'd imprison them or - at best - put them under house arrest? Um, ok. If you want to imprison people who haven't committed any crimes then you're looking for trouble.

 

[Arazi]

The killing of children crosses a line many people really don't like.

 

[nick.lidgett]

WTH - the Americans just don't care.
Article just published in NYT website showing crime scene images!

Damn the American media for releasing information!

 

[Arazi]

You cant just round up people who might do a terrorism, there must be evidence. The whole premise of our laws would be out the window.

Temporary special measures.

 

[MadMossy]

So you'd imprison them or - at best - put them under house arrest? Um, ok. If you want to imprison people who haven't committed any crimes then you're looking for trouble.

Surely they would have had to do something drastically wrong to actually be on the list in the first place.

 

[Robbo]

The Telegraph have images of parts of the bomb: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/24/leaked-pictures-show-bomb-used-manchester-attack/

 

[darkgen]

Damn the American media for releasing information!

Really? You think this is the appropriate type of detail to be released in to the public domain at this time?

 

[Greebo]

I've been saying this for over a year, the same as the guy in the video you linked, the usual apologists shouted me down, it seems there are a lot more people saying the same now, on here and in all the media, social and others.

Arrest and detain them all.

(I am catching up with the thread.)

so how many is that? One million? Where are you going to pout them all?

 

[Caged]

Damn the American media for releasing information!

I don't think that was the complaint. Hours ago Amber Rudd has requested that the US security services don't leak information about an ongoing investigation to the media, but it hasn't stopped.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...leaking-manchester-terror-attack-information/

 

[Greebo]

Yeah, there is definatley a change in mind set.

I wonder how many high up people in the gov and security services have got their heads in their hands at how this has gotten through, pretty much the whole family are extremists, i wouldnt be surprised if his dad is the bomb builder, and that our security probably already know it and are wondering how they tell the people.

His dad tried to warn people and get his son help. Sigh. Lets just kill all the family whenever a suicide bomber hits a target shall we? That will stop them.

 

[Arazi]

so how many is that? One million? Where are you going to pout them all?

Those on a watch list i meant, but you knew that anyway.

 

[Arazi]

His dad tried to warn people and get his son help. Sigh. Lets just kill all the family whenever a suicide bomber hits a target shall we? That will stop them.

I heard the BBC and others say earlier that his dad has extremist links, his brother has apparently already confessed.

 

[tayto_0]

It's not about them speaking out publicly or apologising. It's about tackling this at a grass root level. Unfortunately while these communities as a whole are not responsible for these atrocities they are the only ones with any real influence.

Contrary to what the experts tell us the problem isn't some loner becoming radicalised by a video he watched online, this is being passed down through generations, It becomes acceptable within families to express disdain for the very country they were born in, to praise and make excuses for terrorists.

People talk, you know within your community the people/families who hold these views. It's not fair that the decent people are being asked to bravely confront this but it is the only way this will ever change.

I posted that yesterday.

 

[Greebo]

Those on a watch list i meant, but you knew that anyway.

Not really as several people have said on here it should be everybody with any ISIS flag or even looked at an ISIS material online so hard to keep up with what you are all demanding..............

 

[Mynight]

Temporary special measures.

No such thing as temporary special measures. It just sets precedent for next time they can't be arsed with the legal system.

Surely they would have had to do something drastically wrong to actually be on the list in the first place.

I doubt the criteria for being on the list is publicly known. You'd hope it'd be something like that but it could be anything really.