Manchester Bombing *** Please remain respectful and refrain from antagonising posts ***

Amp34 said:
There is public debate, there are tv shows (C4 is especially prevelant in making them) and I'm sure this will all be discussed on question time over the next few weeks for example.

I'm not sure what that will achieve in persuading people with that kind of mindset however. Just as the alt right don't believe the mainstream media people like this attacker are unlikely to just change their ways because the BBC told them to. I'm sure they'll have their own select quotes that they will adhere to above all else, much like many religious people (good and bad).
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This guy was "alt-right" too.

The irony inherent in all the posts on here demanding the UK turn into a country as xenophobic as places under Isis control is missed by most posters clamouring for it. Someone on here demanded all Muslim families of people on a watch list have their doors kicked in.

There's in fact an interesting series on the Middle East on Radio 4 at the moment, which on Monday by sheer coincidence, was explaining how Osama Bin Laden was driven to act because of his view that the Saudi rulers were failing to protect the Kingdom from followers of other religions entering - sound familiar?
 
Wow? Angry much? What he posted wasn't offensive, I suggest you check twitter as per another person's link people are making some jokes, in bad times some people try make a joke of a certain aspect to cope with it.

That being said all the British humour stuff has been like the above picture nothing aimed at victims etc.

Considering what's happened you should be ****** off at that attack not a joke that harms no one physically
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Yeah and considering the subject of all his stories, you would be surprised to know that his county has one of the lowest percentage of foreigners. Over 95% of people who live in Shropshire are from the UK!

All dem foreigners must live on Chris' road or something. I wonder if he can ask them how to apply for this 'Race Card' he keeps banging on about. I never got mine and the more i keep hearing about it, the more i thin im losing out.
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I said it was when I lived in Gatley. Cheadle and Gatley are changed beyond recognition these days, with many of the residents dressed more for the Pakistan and Bangladesh foothills, rather than a once quaint Manchester suburb. I can count the dozens of friends and family who once lived in the area, and who remain on one hand now, such was the areas rapid demographic change. It's no surprise Didsbury is now associated with a child murdering terrorist either, it's also suffered major population change in the last ten years, with once lovely, grand Victorian houses now more profitable dilapidated student bedsits, and with a large college that seems to attract foreign students who use it as a foothold to get into the UK and then disappear. I went to school in Fallowfield and there's absolutely no surprise it's now on the terrorist map either. It's probably Manchester's equivalent of Birmingham's infamous Kings Heath.

As for this part of Shropshire, you're quite right, you could put all the immigrants in a single Transit mini bus. It's a totally different county as you say. Poor motorway links, mainly rural and Birmingham not too far away make it unattractive to young immigrants I would imagine. To me a race card is something one might have at a horse race...
 
Fubsy said:
Some people get more angry and animated at words than actions. I don't and never will understand them.
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Ditto, god I have been called all sorts, he'll I made a joke about fact I found a lump as did my friends I knew it was in jest so not bothered, if people don't like that style of humour just avoid it all together. Anyway that's off topic, it has been good to hear more police about etc, apparently aaraine Grande has offered to pay for all the victims funerals which I thought was a nice gesture. Take some finaicla stress off families as it's hard enough to deal with losing some one let alone potential having debt on top
 
After a cursory glance of the last few pages can we assume the general consensus of the
hand wringing liberal elite wimps is to assume the default position of fingers-in-ears and lah-lahing ?

A position that they have stoutly but pathetically assumed in their sorry attempts to battle this scourge of UK based terrorism.

We have not to let it " change our way of life ", that's what they'd want

Oh well, phew, that's a relief, but no actual strategy then, to combat terrorism ?

Just be stoic until some religious madman kills your kids in a public place ?

OK, but a plan might be handy, you being politicians and all.
 
Roland Butter said:
After a cursory glance of the last few pages can we assume the general consensus of the
hand wringing liberal elite wimps is to assume the default position of fingers-in-ears and lah-lahing ?

A position that they have stoutly but pathetically assumed in their sorry attempts to battle this scourge of UK based terrorism.

We have not to let it " change our way of life ", that's what they'd want

Oh well, phew, that's a relief, but no actual strategy then, to combat terrorism ?

Just be stoic until some religious madman kills your kids in a public place ?

OK, but a plan might be handy, you being politicians and all.
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Where's your plan mate? Unless it's to berate the "left wingers"..
 
Roland Butter said:
After a cursory glance of the last few pages can we assume the general consensus of the
hand wringing liberal elite wimps is to assume the default position of fingers-in-ears and lah-lahing ?

A position that they have stoutly but pathetically assumed in their sorry attempts to battle this scourge of UK based terrorism.

We have not to let it " change our way of life ", that's what they'd want

Oh well, phew, that's a relief, but no actual strategy then, to combat terrorism ?

Just be stoic until some religious madman kills your kids in a public place ?

OK, but a plan might be handy, you being politicians and all.
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Clearly you have not been reading right. The "hand wringing liberal" want to look at the root of problems, make sure we dont grow any more home grown terrorists and in the meantime spend lots on counter terrorism.

The "hard right nutters" seem to want to intern everybody who is a muslim who have visited certain sites from their web browser or made any comment in support of isis and just to make sure, lock up their families as well as "you can never be too sure" therefore alienating all the ones who haven't and turning them to extremism leading to more terrorists until the "final solution" is called for.

Take your pick
 
Caged said:
What are you personally going to do about it that might be considered non-wimpy?
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I suspect since he mentioned "change our way of life" he wants bag searches at every public building, indentity cards, cerfews, complete internet lockdown, perhaps even a reqards system for reporting your neighbours or family? But thats fine as we will all be safe from terrorism.
 
VincentHanna said:
Great Story! - Total BS.

We know you're one of those people that seems to have a story relating to every little thing going on in the news (Remember those American women popping in to your local village pub in the middle on nowhere to discuss Trump?)
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To be fair this does happen. Not too long ago a Funeral was taking place up the road from the pub I work at It was Traveller Queen that had passed and I can honestly say there were upwards of 270 cars parked on double yellows all along the main road, both sides. This funeral coincided with a Derby County home game. At the best of times Fans park where ever all over the area where I work but not Double yellows. On this day there were a fair few coppers out checking for 'non traveller' cars and ticketing them. So travellers can park where the **** they want. Basically the police watched people getting out of their cars and walking towards the stadium and doing what they do best. Ignoring the travellers cars.

On the plus side we HAVE to close when there is any traveller wedding or funeral, just not worth the risk. Can't have a repeat of a few years ago.
 
Roland Butter said:
After a cursory glance of the last few pages can we assume the general consensus of the
hand wringing liberal elite wimps is to assume the default position of fingers-in-ears and lah-lahing ?

A position that they have stoutly but pathetically assumed in their sorry attempts to battle this scourge of UK based terrorism.

We have not to let it " change our way of life ", that's what they'd want

Oh well, phew, that's a relief, but no actual strategy then, to combat terrorism ?

Just be stoic until some religious madman kills your kids in a public place ?

OK, but a plan might be handy, you being politicians and all.
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And how would you combat terrorism?

I'm sure everyone here would love to know.
 
Roland Butter said:
After a cursory glance of the last few pages can we assume the general consensus of the
hand wringing liberal elite wimps is to assume the default position of fingers-in-ears and lah-lahing ?

A position that they have stoutly but pathetically assumed in their sorry attempts to battle this scourge of UK based terrorism.

We have not to let it " change our way of life ", that's what they'd want

Oh well, phew, that's a relief, but no actual strategy then, to combat terrorism ?

Just be stoic until some religious madman kills your kids in a public place ?

OK, but a plan might be handy, you being politicians and all.
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wow im an elite now? Why do you think liberals want nothing done to combat it. I am liberal (although not elite) and Ive wanted to combat terrorism for a while. How exactly? I don't know. Being as you are not liberal, how EXACTLY would YOU combat it?
 
Declaring that what we are doing isn't the correct approach because now and again there is a successful attack made is like claiming that hospitals are pointless because people still die in them.
 
According to some, Ariana Grande has offered to pay for the funerals of those killed. If true that is a very nice gesture considering the circumstances. I guess a funeral is not cheap now a days. One less thing for the suffering families to worry about.
 
Uther said:
It's easy to say don't worry everything's fine when it's not your kids getting blown up.
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True indeed, but we can't let them win. So we do always have to carry on even if we are scared/sad. It's not a solution but a necessity, I don't know how to resolve the issue we rarely get a declaration from these cowards. The IRA had an objective we knew what we needed to address because we knew what they were fighting for. These scum seem to have no objective beyond causing suffering.
 
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