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Similarly it's also extremely simple stuff to understand what a representative benchmark offers as a comparison point.
If they've benched something which represents MP and pgi has done the same over 15 minutes then while not perfect the fact it's 15 minutes long will smooth out any large variances in bench methods making it comparable.
I never said that, you're putting words in my mouth now to suit your argument. Its actually a decent, but brief bench as it represents a worst case scenario for putting maximum strain on both the cpu and gpu by focusing on area that shows the whole city. That's how it works in Battlefield games Rusty. When you can see everything, that's typically when the hardware is under most strain. I can understand why those it. Its why its pointless comparing it to a 15 minute gameplay bench in this instance. This is all pretty obvious stuff so perhaps we should leave it here now and get the thread back on track with Mantle feedback and bug reports. Anything to add on either of those old boy?
I never said that, you're putting words in my mouth now to suit your argument. Its actually a decent, but brief bench as it represents a worst case scenario for putting maximum strain on both the cpu and gpu by focusing on area that shows the whole city. That's how it works in Battlefield games Rusty. When you can see everything, that's typically when the hardware is under most strain. I can understand why those it. Its why its pointless comparing it to a 15 minute gameplay bench in this instance. This is all pretty obvious stuff so perhaps we should leave it here now and get the thread back on track with Mantle feedback and bug reports. Anything to add on either of those old boy?
Reading and comprehension failure. I never said you said that. Read my post - that's me saying that.
Well I think it is a bit worthless if it's not showing you what differences you're going to see while actually playing. Who sits on a hill looking over the city thinking: "oh I got 60 FPS at this point with DX but now I'm getting 80 FPS"
Whereas a corresponding increase over the course of a map would likely to be more noticeable. You should post the caveats rather than just the graphs if you don't want to be called out on it then there probably wouldn't be any issues.
I think you're misunderstanding what the point of the benchmark was. Its to showcase Mantle and the extra performance it can offer over Dx. Its why posting comparison benches to what they tested is completely pointless. How has this not sunk in yet?
Very best case scenario posted under the guise of a universal increase? Or at least without an attaching caveat? If you had posted that they benched basically a point to show what Mantle was capable of at best I don't think you would have upset pgi by saying his comparison wasn't useful in this instance.
People assume if you're posting a MP graph that it is representative of gameplay. In this case it's not. And don't give me the whole "I posted the link" thing as you know as well as I do that nobody clicks and reads the link when the graphs are posted.
. But irrespective of comparisons and what not it still should be (in the context of Mantle) that if you're graph dropping in a thread where the graph is not explanatory as to its origin then a one line caveat is both polite and necessary. As said before, you know as well as I do that when graph dropping hardly anyone clicks the actual article link unless they're looking for holes to pick at..
