Marina Bay Circuit -Singapore Grand Prix 2009 - Race 14/17
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that's the disappointing thing about Button. If it was MS/LH or even Fred leading the championship you would expect a great charge from a bad qualy. With Button not even expecting points.
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Button may be saved by the track, if no one can pass, ruebans wont be getting any points either, hamilton can stop vettel from getting the max points, rosberg might even push him into 3rd. So Jenson will loose ground to the red bulls but not to his main rival, he could be lucky, another race done and lead remains the same.
yea i cant really see button starting at the back of the grid and making a charge through the field and winning unlike a lot of past champions have done before.
he tends to finish around where he qualifies which is rather disapointing and makes me hope someone else wins the championship
Normally, I would agree with you as I don't feel Button is a special talent. He is a 1 hit wonder, where if he wins it this year, the chances of him ever winning a title again are very very low (unlike Hamilton/Alonso, who have plenty of championships ahead of them, providing they stay healthy). However, Button won 6 out of 7 races at the start of the season (I believe only MS matched this achievement). That has to be rewarded in some way. It was a very special achievement and I think a lot of people forget just how much he dominated the first half of the season. He made it look very easy.
What would be a strategy to try is to put Button on a very light fuel load, so he qualifies in pole. Then have him take an early pit stop. When he rejoins the race, he wont be in a winning position, but he will be one of the front runners and will be out of trouble. This should enable him to score 3-4 points, which is all he needs.
By giving him a heavy fuel load, BrawnGP are putting him at risk of getting involved in a first lap shunt. I don't feel BrawnGP need to be taking risks with him, as he has a big lead.
Do you understand how the Q1, 2 and 3 sessions work at all?
OK, let me expand: I wasnt specifically talking about the Singapore GP. I was talking about all the GPs, since his decline (Silverstone onwards).
Moreover, if the team want, they can bias the setup to work better on a lighter fuel load. This means, the car will perform well during qualifying but less so when the car is heavy, at the start of each race stint. My belief is that given how difficult it is to overtake, once Button has moved into the top 6 positions, he can quite easily defend his position with a car which is a little slow on the heavier fuel load. Bear in mind that the car will come back to him, once the fuel load lightens.
BrawnGP have a tendency to concentrate most of their practise sessions on dialling in a setup which performs well on heavy fuel loads. This was fine when they had the best car (first half of the season), but it doesnt seem to be working for Button now. The alternative strategy (which I believe is that which has been used by Alonso throughout this season), would be to dial in a setup that performs best with a lighter fuel load, which will give the extra speed necessary to get through all 3 qualifying sessions and perform well in Q3. From the word go, Button should have the confidence to go outright, for pole, safe in the knowledge that he has one of the lightest cars on the grid.
Moreover, if the team want, they can bias the setup to work better on a lighter fuel load. This means, the car will perform well during qualifying but less so when the car is heavy, at the start of each race stint. My belief is that given how difficult it is to overtake, once Button has moved into the top 6 positions, he can quite easily defend his position with a car which is a little slow on the heavier fuel load. Bear in mind that the car will come back to him, once the fuel load lightens.
BrawnGP have a tendency to concentrate most of their practise sessions on dialling in a setup which performs well on heavy fuel loads. This was fine when they had the best car (first half of the season), but it doesnt seem to be working for Button now. The alternative strategy (which I believe is that which has been used by Alonso throughout this season), would be to dial in a setup that performs best with a lighter fuel load, which will give the extra speed necessary to get through all 3 qualifying sessions and perform well in Q3. From the word go, Button should have the confidence to go outright, for pole, safe in the knowledge that he has one of the lightest cars on the grid.
the thing is, thats the best button could do on light fuel... 12th. hence he gets to choose whatever fuel load he wants, thats why he is so heavy. If he could qualify in the top 3 im sure he would.....
Not as lucky as Rubens in Aus (gaining 3 places in the last few laps and about 4 or 5 points), or winning after a gift from McLaren amongst other "lucky" days (not to mention yesterday, just imagine if some people had managed to complete the q3 lap they where on, Rubens could have easily been behind Button with gear box penalty - lucked in again, even if he doesnt know how his car will handle today)
and with a light car that would completely **** Button's race so there is no advantage at all (and with KERS around him even if he did get pole, he would lose the lead pretty quickly)
There was also a blog on the BBC claiming that the types of brakes after Turkey have gone into the direction of Barrichello's rahter than Button's technique (Button is lighter and more precise, Rubens is more heavy and abrupt) - as to why Brawn cant have two types I dont know but that explains something
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Just like at Spa when there where accidents all over the grid from up front all the way back
(Kimi going off and coming back on, Alonso going wide earlier on and connecting with a few from oversteer issues, goes on and on)
I really meant due to the track, as its very narrow and you saw what going off the line by a tiny margin did to Barrichello
Washed up Kimi has consistently been on the podium for the last few races in a car that looks very difficult to drive judging from how Badoer and Fisi did in it
I think Kimi would do pretty well at Mclaren, as has been pointed out on a few occasions he isn't intimidated and won't care who his teammate is, he just gets in the car and drives.
Thats Kimi's problem. He turns up if the car suits him that weekend fine, if not he struggles or can't be bothered. He rarely starts badly and improves a car for a weekend. He's either on it from day 1 or not interested.
Ferrari bought a driver for Schumacher money and then realised they had a guy who has no idea on car set up. Just like Hakkinen before him at mclaren he relied on a supreme mclaren operation. As soon as they built the Hakk a mediocre car he never looked interested either.
but so are all the other cars, so no advantage. Well a disadvantage as brawn cars work better with heavier fuel loads.
Interview - top three in Singapore qualifying
Lewis Hamilton will start the Singapore Grand Prix on pole position as the title contending Brawn drivers suffer a bad qualifying session.
Lewis Hamilton will start the Singapore Grand Prix on pole position as the title contending Brawn drivers suffer a bad qualifying session.
Heidfeld to start from the pitlane after BMW decided to change engine and gearbox.
They found the car was underweight after qualifying - I expect they mean under the anticipated weight including fuel rather than sub 605kg
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Apparently not - the car was under the minimum weight as it had the wrong ballast weights fitted.
So it's got more fuel onboard than the official weight states as the car itself was underweight
They found the car was underweight after qualifying - I expect they mean under the anticipated weight including fuel rather than sub 605kg
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Apparently not - the car was under the minimum weight as it had the wrong ballast weights fitted.
So it's got more fuel onboard than the official weight states as the car itself was underweight
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