Married Teacher Who Gave 14-Year-Old Student Oral Sex Allowed Back In Classroom

If this was the other way round the man would be jailed without a doubt. I’ve lost count of how many articles I’ve seen in the papers over the last year where women have not been punished for this kind of thing it’s a joke. Seems to be a growing problem with women it was far more rare up until a few years ago.
 
Except there is no evidence that Mohammed slept with anyone prepubescent. Prepubescent weddings were the norm, pre-date Islam and were just as common in christian countries for centuries afterwards.


Oh D. P..... !!


Its always a joy to respond to your posts. It's strange that for someone who claims to be educated that your posts are so often riddled with such basic mistakes.

Let's just look at this particular Hadith shall we (with the Hadiths being the written records, in Islam, of the words and actions of Muhammed)


'no evidence that Muhammed slept with anyone prepubescent' ...? What only if we ignore what Islam's own religious books say about its prophet? And yes child brides were a feature of Middle age 'Christian' nations but the difference is that the men involved are not generally held up as moral exemplars whoose actions are to be emulated by the faithful in the here and now like is the case with Muhammed

All look, all the OCUK biggots are out comparing pedophilia to homosexuality. Quell surprise

The problem is that there is a bit of evidence linking prominent gay individuals and gay advocacy groups to the promotion of a very socially permissive attitude towards (older) adults having sex with children.



Tatchell himself had the following to say about 'inter generational relationships' (for anyone that's not clear that's code for adults having sex with children)

Ross Coward (Who dares to speak says nothing useful June 23) thinks its "shocking" that Gay mens press has published a book, Dares to Speak, that challenges the assumption that all sex involving children and adults is abusive.

Several of my friends, gay and straight, male and female had sex with adults from the ages of nine to thirteen

Here an account from a gay man who runs a charity in Manchester for men who have been victims of sexual abuse.

“I was brought up on an estate in Manchester in the late seventies and people knew each other,” Duncan said. “Everyone was your ‘auntie’ or ‘uncle’ - it was a real Mancunian upbringing.

“I met this youth worker, I don’t remember how it first started. All I can think is that I must have been around 11 or 12 when he started buying me records and cigarettes and sometimes alcohol and Coca Cola. We would call it grooming now but we didn’t even have a word for it back then.

“He would try play fighting which I can now recognise as another level of grooming. I don’t remember it in sequence - it’s not a story I can put together.

“I remember being near the reservoirs, him grabbing me and being really scared. As I got older things just seemed to get older with it. At that time I didn’t understand what rape was. Nobody spoke to us about sexual violence back then. I didn’t tell anybody, and didn’t recognise it as abuse.”

Unfortunately young gay men, often struggling with sexuality are a frequent target for abuse by much older males.

If gay men don't want to be associated with child sex abuse it might help to have a greater degree of internal opposition to thoose involved and advocating it.
 
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Seems to be a growing problem with women it was far more rare up until a few years ago.

Or just rarely reported. Since social media has only really been prominent for the last decade or so and mobile phones being owned by teenagers for the last two decades. Prior to that there was less evidence, less chance of getting caught etc..
 
My daughter is 14. She is most definitely still a child.

As for this case I agree with everyone saying if it was a man he'd have been crucified.
Do you still dress your daughter the same as when she was 5, 8, 10, 12?

This isn't going anywhere in particular, except to say that I've seen some very provocatively dressed "children" (who in reality were teenagers).

In such cases I can't help but wonder what the bloody hell the parents were thinking. I've seen kids dressed like they'd just crawled in from the red light district.

The idea that there's no difference between a pre-pubescent child and a teenager is really flying in the face of reality.
 
Do you still dress your daughter the same as when she was 5, 8, 10, 12?

This isn't going anywhere in particular, except to say that I've seen some very provocatively dressed "children" (who in reality were teenagers).

In such cases I can't help but wonder what the bloody hell the parents were thinking. I've seen kids dressed like they'd just crawled in from the red light district.

The idea that there's no difference between a pre-pubescent child and a teenager is really flying in the face of reality.
She is a young teenager and so dresses differently to a young child. But emotionally she is still a child. She is a child.
 
She is a young teenager and so dresses differently to a young child. But emotionally she is still a child. She is a child.
Do you think she'll still be a child one day from her 18th birthday, and then she'll wake up aged 18 being emotionally mature?

Because if you're not saying that, then you recognise there is a maturation process, with emotional development gradually increasing with age.

Ergo, a child is not a child is not a child. A 10 year old is, shall we say, more of a child than a 16 year old.
 
Do you think she'll still be a child one day from her 18th birthday, and then she'll wake up aged 18 being emotionally mature?

Because if you're not saying that, then you recognise there is a maturation process, with emotional development gradually increasing with age.

Ergo, a child is not a child is not a child. A 10 year old is, shall we say, more of a child than a 16 year old.
Of course there is a gradual process and also each child matures at a different rate. To suggest otherwise would be foolish.

But there is a world of difference between a 14 year old and someone a day away from their 18th birthday. I'm not sure why you're stating the obvious.
 
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Of course there is a gradual process and also each child matures at a different rate. To suggest otherwise would be foolish.

But there is a world of difference between a 14 year old and someone a day away from their 18th birthday. I'm not sure why you're stating the obvious.
So there's a world of difference between a 14-16 year old and an 8 year old then.
 
Foxeye in some imaginary argument on the forum where no-one but him cares or is interested in whatever vague random point he's trying to make - there's a surprise.
 
Not sure what you're arguing about. A 14 year old is still a child.
Yeah but so is a 17/364 year old. And you've already conceded that there's a world of difference between a 17/364 year old child and a 14 year old child.

So you can't have it both ways.

Either a child is a child, as you say, and there's no difference between a 17 year old and a 14 year old, or there is, and there's also a difference between a 14 year old and a pre-pubescent.
 
Yeah but so is a 17/364 year old. And you've already conceded that there's a world of difference between a 17/364 year old child and a 14 year old child.

So you can't have it both ways.

Either a child is a child, as you say, and there's no difference between a 17 year old and a 14 year old, or there is, and there's also a difference between a 14 year old and a pre-pubescent.
I haven't 'conceded' anything. It's obvious to anyone. My statement was that my 14 year old is a child. No more. No less. I didn't initially make any comment about other ages until you started asking about it. But for some strange reason you seem to want to pick an argument over something. Extremely bizarre.
 
Lols, I'm not picking an argument.

The conversation had touched on why ephebephilia and pedophilia should be regarded as being different things.

Which they rightly are and should be; there's a world of difference between teenagers and pre-pubescents.
 
Lols, I'm not picking an argument.

The conversation had touched on why ephebephilia and pedophilia should be regarded as being different things.

Which they rightly are and should be; there's a world of difference between teenagers and pre-pubescents.

Are you saying one is better than the other?
 
Not in the eyes of the law.
Yes in the eyes of the law. Do you think someone who sticks his **** in a 5 year old is going to receive the exact same sentence as someone in a relationship with a sexually mature 15 year old? If the answer is no, then the law does not consider the two scenarios to be the same.
 
Yes in the eyes of the law. Do you think someone who sticks his **** in a 5 year old is going to receive the exact same sentence as someone in a relationship with a sexually mature 15 year old? If the answer is no, then the law does not consider the two scenarios to be the same.

Well the law doesn't see those 2 cases as any different. It gives the same range of possible outcomes in both cases. The eventual sentence is decided by the judge for each individual case.

I don't think outcome of sentence can be a valid argument on the seriousness of a crime as we see sentences vary a lot for all crimes. For example 2 burglars robbed 2 houses seperately yet both can receive different sentences. It doesn't mean that one crime was less serious than the other.
 
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