Massive Car insurance costs?

Haha hahahahaha….. ha!

Renewal came through £632

I have said it before and I’ll say it again, at least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

Was Dick Turpin responsible for the stock of second hand cars holding their value a lot more since Covid and the stupid cost needing to be offset by written off EV's for small damage? Then you have the whole debacle of JLR products that have become insurable because of how easy they are to steal. (There are plenty of other manufacturers too). These are all factors that increase insurance premiums.
 
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Was Dick Turpin responsible for the stock of second hand cars holding their value a lot more since Covid and the stupid cost needing to be offset by written off EV's for small damage? Then you have the whole debacle of JLR products that have become insurable because of how easy they are to steal. (There are plenty of other manufacturers too). These are all factors that increase insurance premiums.
Doesn't explain why he can go elsewhere and get it for £200 less though? I assume the Dick Tirpin comment was more in relation to the massive difference between the renewal and new prices being quoted.
 
The market being flooded with hot hatches such as M140i and the like is to do with the massive hike in insurance. My renewal is coming up soon so another hike to contend with this year.
 
Interesting little 'quirk' - the quote I had via comparison site, once on the insurers site had incorrectly picked up that I purchased my vehicle January 2024. I changed this to January 2023 and the quote increased by £150.

It's almost as if they see an opportunity to add a bit more money because i've owned the car for a while and won't want to get rid of it just because of a slightly higher insurance cost... Struggling to see how I present a genuinely higher risk by virtue of having owned the car for a year :p
 
The market being flooded with hot hatches such as M140i and the like is to do with the massive hike in insurance. My renewal is coming up soon so another hike to contend with this year.
I doubt it, I mean if I look nationally on autotrader there are less than 500 M140i for sale (less than 50 within 30 miles of me) so it's more of a steady drizzle than a flood.
If you look here, M140i has essentially flatlined since 2019 in terms of the number on the roads: https://www.theclassicvaluer.com/howmanyremain/bmw/m140i .

I think electric vehicles will be more of a factor due to their high repair costs, they are gaining market share and there's now a pure electric car (Model Y) in the top5 biggest sellers.
 
My insurers have always given me a discount each year the more years I own the car, Adrian Flux/Sterling literally described it to me as a bonus due to keeping the same car - aside from the extra I save the more years NCB I earn, it's definitely worth shopping around, along with having modifications, every car I've modified, even with a different engine/box/diff etc etc swapped in, has been cheaper than the standard one, by stupid amounts!
 
Interesting little 'quirk' - the quote I had via comparison site, once on the insurers site had incorrectly picked up that I purchased my vehicle January 2024. I changed this to January 2023 and the quote increased by £150.

It's almost as if they see an opportunity to add a bit more money because i've owned the car for a while and won't want to get rid of it just because of a slightly higher insurance cost... Struggling to see how I present a genuinely higher risk by virtue of having owned the car for a year :p
Few potential reasons:
  • Fraud algorithms give some weighting to how long a car has been owned.
  • Anecdotally, drivers are more cautious when they first own a car. They don't want to damage their shiny new paint/alloys etc. My wife got a new car for Christmas and was crawling around our estate in it :D Essentially, when something is "brand new" (to them), people tend to take better care of it
  • A car owned for a year is perhaps considered more likely to have worn tyres or other faults impacting on risk, although this won't always be the case, I mean you could buy a second hand car 12 months ago with wafer thin tyres, and if it's less than 3 years old you wouldn't need to pass an MOT. But on average, I suspect most cars purchased less than a month ago have decent tyres and no major faults, otherwise the person buying it would have had that seen to.
That said, I would argue familiarity of having owned a car for 12 months compared to 0 months means you should be more proficient at driving it, and insurance premiums often go in the other direction, so I'm kind of surprised. Is this repeatable i.e. if you do another quote for jan 2024 does the quote go back up down by £150?
 
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Some of those make a little bit of sense but it still feels a bit like a cheeky money grab :p

That said, I would argue familiarity of having owned a car for 12 months compared to 0 months means you should be more proficient at driving it, and insurance premiums often go in the other direction, so I'm kind of surprised. Is this repeatable i.e. if you do another quote for jan 2024 does the quote go back up down by £150?

Yep, repeats quite happily.

Either way, it's the only vaguely reasonable quote i've managed to find, so it'll have to do.

It's a bit of a chore renewing at this time of year, as the 'sweet spot' for obtaining quotes lands right amongst Christmas and New Year, so I don't end up giving it the attention it needs at the right time. Given I'm around 15 years NCD already, I may look around again in summer and see if it's worth chopping and changing mid way through the policy if things are looking any better (perhaps to coincide with my partners car and find something multicar).
 
It's a bit of a chore renewing at this time of year, as the 'sweet spot' for obtaining quotes lands right amongst Christmas and New Year
It's also a problem because people are strapped for cash around that time of year so are drawn into fraud schemes. Motor insurance is typically annual, but risks are elevated in the first couple of months after a policy is taken out. i.e. you take out insurance, soon after you drive into the back of me, your insurer pays out for all my whiplash etc and the brown envelope drops through your letterbox.
 
Some of those make a little bit of sense but it still feels a bit like a cheeky money grab :p



Yep, repeats quite happily.

Either way, it's the only vaguely reasonable quote i've managed to find, so it'll have to do.

It's a bit of a chore renewing at this time of year, as the 'sweet spot' for obtaining quotes lands right amongst Christmas and New Year, so I don't end up giving it the attention it needs at the right time. Given I'm around 15 years NCD already, I may look around again in summer and see if it's worth chopping and changing mid way through the policy if things are looking any better (perhaps to coincide with my partners car and find something multicar).

It really doesn't.

My renewal is the 5th of January so I'm looking in those dates. There were no differences so quotes obtained before Christmas.
 
Never gotten different quotes regardless of dates.

It may have been in years gone by but certainly not recently.

I find once I've got a quote from somewhere, it won't change between quote and start date unless I materially change the details - it's been a long while since I spent time doing anonymous quotes that couldn't be linked to genuinely compare week to week though.

Places like MSE still seem to suggest there's a sweet spot though.

The cheapest time to get quotes is 20 to 26 days ahead of your renewal date – cover becomes more expensive the closer you get

Strangely, the timing of your quote can impact the overall price you pay, with car insurance costs increasing the closer you get to your renewal date.

We analysed over 70 million quotes from the four biggest comparison sites – Compare The Market, Confused.com, Gocompare and MoneySupermarket – and found the average quote made on the day of renewal was £1,198, or £694 23 days earlier. That's a huge difference of £504.

You might not see savings as large as those, but the principal still stands. Generally, you're seen as more of a risk if you leave sorting your insurance to the last minute, but get quotes too early and you could miss cheap deals from insurers that won't provide quotes that far out.
 
Was Dick Turpin responsible for the stock of second hand cars holding their value a lot more since Covid and the stupid cost needing to be offset by written off EV's for small damage? Then you have the whole debacle of JLR products that have become insurable because of how easy they are to steal. (There are plenty of other manufacturers too). These are all factors that increase insurance premiums.

How much profit are these companies making? You have given two bits of information. Do these only affect my current insurer? Because other companies offer me a lot lower.

They are all a bunch of chancers who get away with it because to own a car you must have a agreement with one of these companies.
 
Just had my renewal through:

Last year: £569
Renewal: £1032

Did laugh. Have thankfully found quotes £50 odd more than last years premium but Admiral can do one, won't even entertain them trying to match it, will just tell them to jog on
 
Changed the insurance over from my Ford Kuga to a Mini Countryman Cooper S. £82 refund! despite being a higher insurance group and more performance.

Can only assume Kugas are either crashed more or stolen more, but as with everything insurance related, just seems to be a lucky dip :)
 
Looks like car insurance went up by around 40% in the past 1 or 2 years
Usually when you get a renewal quote from your current provider, it is far from the best offer you can get.
 
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