Mattresses - I need knowledge

Somnambulist · 29 Nov 2019 at 12:26

Still enjoying my Una latex one.

Ice Tea · 29 Nov 2019 at 12:46

I don't know if anyone on here with a foam mattress feels the same but a sensation that i've read that some people dislike (along with heat trap) is a feeling of sleeping in the mattress rather than a feeling of sleeping on top of the mattress that gets worse as it ages?

manic111 · 30 Nov 2019 at 00:52

Ice Tea said:
I don't know if anyone on here with a foam mattress feels the same but a sensation that i've read that some people dislike (along with heat trap) is a feeling of sleeping in the mattress rather than a feeling of sleeping on top of the mattress that gets worse as it ages?

Not had that yet, but mines only three weeks old

Dazstoke · 30 Nov 2019 at 22:09

I've been looking at memory foam mattresses for a while but the general concensus seems to be they're no good if you sleep on your side or are a to55er
Is that a reasonable conclusion ?

malted · 1 Dec 2019 at 19:16

Dazstoke said:
I've been looking at memory foam mattresses for a while but the general concensus seems to be they're no good if you sleep on your side or are a to55er
Is that a reasonable conclusion ?

I bought a eve matresses last November and i regret it I'm a side sleeper now with a frozen shoulder which is no fun at all had it 8 months now.

First few months it was great but now it's soft in places and firm in other parts ****** I through away a good bed just for a change to foam now looking to replace it.

jpaul · 1 Dec 2019 at 20:30

Somnambulist said:
Still enjoying my Una latex one.

these look nice it's a dunlopillo sibling ? fo seeminly similar money.

malted said:
I bought a eve matresses last November and i regret it

evidently - you only realised there was an issue later.

Dazstoke said:
I've been looking at memory foam mattresses for a while but the general concensus seems to be they're no good if you sleep on your side

with tempur you can lie how you want, it just takes time to adjust/mold to how you want to lay, but yes, if you move around they can become uncomfortable,
I guess you get accustomed to how they assimilate~~mold to~~ you, but it feels odd if you only use one occasionally

Somnambulist · 1 Dec 2019 at 21:42

jpaul said:
these look nice it's a dunlopillo sibling ? fo seeminly similar money.

More or less, just via the bed-in-a-box (or 3 boxes in this case) route and they’re open about it being 100% natural latex rather than not saying or it being a blend of natural/synthetic as the company is keen to promote it’s eco-friendliness credentials blah blah. I took a punt on it as I tend to run hot in bed and it being all allergen-free, mould/dust-mite resistant etc plus being able to alter the firmness level by putting either the soft or medium at the top in the mattress cover.

I’ve never been wow-ed sleeping in any bed and this was no different, but I’m not waking up feeling like I need by back cracked or achey so no complaints...

Ice Tea · 2 Dec 2019 at 09:54

malted said:
I bought a eve matresses last November and i regret it I'm a side sleeper now with a frozen shoulder which is no fun at all had it 8 months now.

First few months it was great but now it's soft in places and firm in other parts ****** I through away a good bed just for a change to foam now looking to replace it.

Did you not read any reviews before you bought it as it considered to be very firm and works best with a plush topper?

There seems to be a lot of complaints from the reviewers that the Eve keeps changing its specs and foam types and have even swapped around the foam layers but all the changes never make it any softer.

jpaul · 2 Dec 2019 at 10:08

Somnambulist said:
More or less, just via the bed-in-a-box (or 3 boxes in this case)

Ok hadn't looked closely enough at their site ... not heard of that strategy, and assumed it was delivered full formed https://unamattress.co.uk/mattress/

Now remove the organic latex layers from their boxes. Unwrap them, place each layer inside your mattress cover and unroll it until it is laying flat with the label facing up until all layers are stacked neatly in your preferred order of firmness with the edges lined up.

I probably need to read more .. but what stops the layers moving relatively, especially on a king+ ... tufting ?

Psycho Sonny · 2 Dec 2019 at 12:21

malted said:
I bought a eve matresses last November and i regret it I'm a side sleeper now with a frozen shoulder which is no fun at all had it 8 months now.

First few months it was great but now it's soft in places and firm in other parts ****** I through away a good bed just for a change to foam now looking to replace it.

Seems to be the consensus with these mattress in a box types. They are good for the first month or so. Then get worse with time and within 1-3 years they need replaced.

Pocket Springs and buy something 3-10 times the price.

Chojin · 2 Dec 2019 at 14:48

I'm looking for a new bed, and my preference is a super king size pocket spring mattress with natural fibres. I looked at John Ryan and the Artisan cost is coming to £2800 :eek:

Is there anything else out there that might be worth looking at, or is JR really that good? I was hoping to pay less than half that.

Begbie · 2 Dec 2019 at 15:00

Chojin said:
I'm looking for a new bed, and my preference is a super king size pocket spring mattress with natural fibres. I looked at John Ryan and the Artisan cost is coming to £2800 Is there anything else out there that might be worth looking at, or is JR really that good? I was hoping to pay less than half that.

You can get it for £2200 if you go for a cheaper mattress.

Also they have a sale on their outlet right now.

I have the cheapest double and it's luxury. Best bed I've ever slept on, I can only dream of how good the more expensive ones are. If I had to go back, I'd spend more. But I wonder how much you spend before the returns diminish. They are also quite friendly, if you send an email.

jpaul · 2 Dec 2019 at 15:01

yes checking - the earliest acknowledged Simba owner in this Doomsday thread had his 3 months ...can anyone beat that ?

the-evaluator said:
We had a Simba for about 3 months, I really liked it by my other half was getting hip pain so it had to go back. The return was utterly painless though so it's worth getting one if only to see how you like it.

Journey · 2 Dec 2019 at 15:40

Chojin said:
I'm looking for a new bed, and my preference is a super king size pocket spring mattress with natural fibres. I looked at John Ryan and the Artisan cost is coming to £2800 Is there anything else out there that might be worth looking at, or is JR really that good? I was hoping to pay less than half that.

We have the Artisan Naturals Super King with the matching 4 -drawer sprung base. It is very, very comfortable and the closest I could find to it was one of the John Lewis Natural range, the mattress alone was ~£2500, and had less filling from what I recall.

Psycho Sonny · 2 Dec 2019 at 16:18

Chojin said:
I'm looking for a new bed, and my preference is a super king size pocket spring mattress with natural fibres. I looked at John Ryan and the Artisan cost is coming to £2800 Is there anything else out there that might be worth looking at, or is JR really that good? I was hoping to pay less than half that.

Hidrasund from IKEA is aorund £800 iirc. I'd go for that for your budget. Has a 25 year guarantee.

jpaul · 2 Dec 2019 at 17:33

Chojin said:
I'm looking for a new bed, and my preference is a super king size pocket spring mattress with natural fibres.

another contender on my list , had not heard of them before the impressive tv programme about their uk manufacture/factory
https://www.belgicafurniture.com/emerald-14000-mattress-by-harrison-spinks/p33580
interesting idea .. but maybe gimmick, of different seasoned sides.

Chojin · 2 Dec 2019 at 21:01

Very helpful feedback everyone, thank you.

I've just had a look at the JR outlet but they didn't have the medium tension I was looking for.

So the Artisan Naturals super king size mattress is £1575 which is a stretch but it's comfort I'm looking for, so I don't mind paying extra for something that is worth it. It looks like the JR base, drawers and headrest were bumping the price up massively which are not really my priority. Would there be any harm in getting a cheaper base from somewhere else? My current bed is a euro king size, so I'm forced to change the base too and would rather go larger than smaller. I'll also see if I can get to Ikea to try out their mattresses.

Mark A · 3 Dec 2019 at 15:33

jpaul said:
another contender on my list , had not heard of them before the impressive tv programme about their uk manufacture/factory
https://www.belgicafurniture.com/emerald-14000-mattress-by-harrison-spinks/p33580
interesting idea .. but maybe gimmick, of different seasoned sides.

I have never liked the sound of the different sided mattresses. Aren't you supposed to flip them fairly often? So you'd end up having to use the 'cool' side in winter. Plus if you didn't like the feel of one side as much you wouldn't want to flip it over.

jpaul · 3 Dec 2019 at 20:45

Mark A said:
I have never liked the sound of the different sided mattresses. Aren't you supposed to flip them fairly often? So you'd end up having to use the 'cool' side in winter. Plus if you didn't like the feel of one side as much you wouldn't want to flip it over.

agree it's more winter in the uk than summer and the lighter duvet only gets used, or just a sheet, for a couple of months;
suppose we rotate or flip every 3-4 weeks ... dam thing must be 80kg. ... changing the side you sleep evens out wear too. (it's like ssd levelling)
I would have thought during trial you could establish if one side is 'useless'

Somnambulist · 3 Dec 2019 at 20:45

jpaul said:
Ok hadn't looked closely enough at their site ... not heard of that strategy, and assumed it was delivered full formed https://unamattress.co.uk/mattress/

I probably need to read more .. but what stops the layers moving relatively, especially on a king+ ... tufting ?

The cover's pretty thick and tight so when it's all zipped up it feels like a single piece.