mATX case with side and top exhaust fans

Armageus · 12 Jun 2020 at 08:18

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   Temperature 0        66 degC (150 degF) (Package (Node 0))
    Voltage 0        1.09 Volts (CPU VDD (Node 0))
    Voltage 1        1.42 Volts (VID #0)
    Voltage 2        1.42 Volts (VID #1)
    Voltage 3        1.38 Volts (VID #2)
    Voltage 4        1.42 Volts (VID #3)
    Power 00        42.74 W (Package)
    Power 01        2.17 W (Core #0)
    Power 02        10.27 W (Core #1)
    Power 03        3.40 W (Core #2)
    Power 04        2.23 W (Core #3)
    Power 05        18.57 W (Cores)
    Clock Speed 0        4292.93 MHz (Core #0)
    Clock Speed 1        4292.93 MHz (Core #1)
    Clock Speed 2        4292.93 MHz (Core #2)
    Clock Speed 3        4292.93 MHz (Core #3)
    Core 0 max ratio    (effective) 43.5
    Core 1 max ratio    (effective) 43.5
    Core 2 max ratio    (effective) 43.5
    Core 3 max ratio    (effective) 43.5

4.3Ghz/1.4V - So it isn't at idle then????

What Windows Power plan are you using, and what BIOS options have you changed?

DJai · 12 Jun 2020 at 09:09

I'm not running any applications front end, whatever is running is in the background.

BIOS is default other than RAM voltage. I haven't touched the CPU.

I believe the power plan is balanced.

DJai · 15 Jun 2020 at 17:45

Armageus said:
4.3Ghz/1.4V - So it isn't at idle then????

What Windows Power plan are you using, and what BIOS options have you changed?

Hope you are around.

Armageus · 15 Jun 2020 at 22:48

DJai said:
Hope you are around.

Have you got the latest BIOS, windows updates and latest AMD Chipset drivers installed?

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/b450

Armageus · 16 Jun 2020 at 07:30

Idle should look more like:

DJai · 19 Jun 2020 at 05:39

doyll said:
Interesting project. The grills in your case are extremely restrictive. Punched metal grill with 3.2mm diameter holes on 6mm centers has 30% open area. Looking at your pics and assuming holes are about same 3.2mm diameter it looks like it has even less open area. End result is it will be hard to move much air quietly.

2x 80mm intakes in in side is probably best. Are bottom vents same hole pattern and big enough for 2x 80mm fans? If they are I think I would put 2x 80mm fans on them and raise case up so there is 25-30mm on sides from what case sets on to bottom of case for better airflow to vents. Even better would be to cut out bottom vents to 80mm round hole for 80mm vent grill like Silverstone make. https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=269&bno=61&tb=54&area=en

What is the best deal hole size of the holes are 3.2mm?

DJai · 19 Jun 2020 at 05:39

Armageus said:
Idle should look more like:

Thanks, I'll check when I can.

DJai · 28 Jun 2020 at 12:04

Armageus said:
Idle should look more like:

Are you using the stock wraith cooler? I'm not getting temperatures of less than 38 minimum and it jumps a lot.

Armageus · 28 Jun 2020 at 14:06

DJai said:
Are you using the stock wraith cooler? I'm not getting temperatures of less than 38 minimum and it jumps a lot.

Stock wraith prism in a tiny aerocool matx case, 2x120mm intake, 2x 120mm exhaust

DJai · 28 Jun 2020 at 14:16

Armageus said:
Stock wraith prism in a tiny aerocool matx case, 2x120mm intake, 2x 120mm exhaust

Wow, what temperatures do you get when all apps like AV, Firewall etc are loaded and you browse the internet?

I'm really impressed with your temperatures.

I'm using Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste.

Armageus · 28 Jun 2020 at 15:54

The above is the sort of temperature I'm getting while browsing...

I'm using the stock paste that came with it. AS5 is old now and pretty terrible

DJai · 28 Jun 2020 at 16:36

Armageus said:
The above is the sort of temperature I'm getting while browsing...

I'm using the stock paste that came with it. AS5 is old now and pretty terrible

I was getting the same/worse temperatures with the stock paste. Hmmm...

DJai · 30 Jun 2020 at 21:05

Well, I don't know what to think or do.

DJai · 30 Jun 2020 at 22:33

Armageus said:
The above is the sort of temperature I'm getting while browsing...

I'm using the stock paste that came with it. AS5 is old now and pretty terrible

I've just read an article about the best thermal pastes in 2020 and AS5 is still mentioned: https://nerdtechy.com/best-thermal-paste-reviews

Armageus · 30 Jun 2020 at 23:10

Thermal paste is unlikely to be the issue.

Did you install the latest bios, windows updates and AMD drivers mentioned above?

Also might be worth taking some photos of bios settings and posting here so we can double check

DJai · 1 Jul 2020 at 09:01

I have the latest BIOS and drivers. I don't know why but now I get a flickering display from boot until Windows loads so going into BIOS now isn't practically possible. I presume that means it is driver related and the display cannot work properly even though I used the same display without any flickering to configure BIOS and Windows only a few weeks ago.

DJai · 2 Jul 2020 at 20:13

What do you think?

DJai · 25 Jul 2020 at 07:43

Hello?

doyll · 26 Jul 2020 at 12:40

DJai said:
What is the best deal hole size of the holes are 3.2mm?

I assume you mean your grill has 3.2mm holes, but hole size is only part of it. Hole spacing is other part. Grill with 3,2mm holes on 4.8mm pitch has 40% open area. Grill with 3.2mm holes on 5.6mm pitch has 30% open area. Link below has more info about grills:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/22657923-post15.html

But even that is not all. When air flows through a grill it creates turbulence, and this turbulence also effects airflow lowering it even more. Open link below and scrowl down to how air goes round a round wire grill versus a punched hole grill.
https://www.silverstonetek.com/techtalk_cont.php?tid=wh_chessis&area=usa

DJai said:
I've just read an article about the best thermal pastes in 2020 and AS5 is still mentioned: https://nerdtechy.com/best-thermal-paste-reviews

Getting a good TIM seat and proper mounting pressure is way more important than what TIM you us. Of top 30-35 or so TIMs liquid metal ones are a 1-2c better, but also much harder to apply and get good set. Ends up many TIM applications cool no better than normal TIM because of bad seat.

Anyway, top 30 or so normal TIMs all transfer heat within a couple degrees of each other. So don't worry about what TIM you use. If you want to improve cooling, pay attention and get a case that flows air properly, comes with good high pressure rated case fans, then place the fans properly so case flows are as it should.

Armageus said:
Thermal paste is unlikely to be the issue.

Did you install the latest bios, windows updates and AMD drivers mentioned above?

Also might be worth taking some photos of bios settings and posting here so we can double check

What Armageus said above.
Post screen shots of settings so members with same CPU can help you get things right.

DJai · 26 Jul 2020 at 17:05

DJai said:
I have the latest BIOS and drivers. I don't know why but now I get a flickering display from boot until Windows loads so going into BIOS now isn't practically possible. I presume that means it is driver related and the display cannot work properly even though I used the same display without any flickering to configure BIOS and Windows only a few weeks ago.