May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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Khaaan! said:
Hold on a second, let's look at it from a different angle.

Why do you find someone else drawing OUR prophet offensive? That just means you don't have much understanding of people in general and you're letting your anger take over sensible thoughts. You're feeding off the bullcrap that people oh-so-easily-offended spout and cry murder about. You don't see Buddhists marching the streets wanting justice now do you? Or The Pope? Well OK the Pope is having a hard time covering up child buggerers right now so he can be excused.

Islam is a personal and peaceful religion, what the next man does is his own business and not your own to concern yourself with especially when it's God's duty to ask questions and judge people after they die. By doing his work while you're alive what will you answer when he asks you as to your accusations of racism and so on?

Amiririte?


Yesiam.
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i-bert said:
So all you who are going out of your way to offend someone you don't even know, just because you have the right to, then you are a bit of a knob arn't you.
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That doesnt seem to me to be whats happening.

The way I see it, somebody featured this person in a comedy carrtoon, along with other religious characters. This resulted in people making death threats at the creators.

In response, some people took offence to the idea that people can be threatened with death over a drawing/animation, and retaliated.

Then a court in Pakistan bans facebook.

There is some over-reaction going on here, big time, I guess its up to you which 'side' you see that as being on :)
 
So all you who are going out of your way to offend someone you don't even know, just because you have the right to
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It's not to offend. It's to offer support to those who have used the image in the past for different reasons (such as humour) and to show that people will not stop expressing themselves for fear of retribution.
 
Vita said:
By all means do what you feel like doing, I'm not stopping you. So I haven't got a right in that sense. I'm just saying it offends me that people want to draw our prophet. That is all.
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Perhaps if lots of people did it in a light hearted way then you'd see that there isn't anything to get worked up about in the first place - its just a drawing :)

If people hadn't massively overreacted to the danish cartoons, south park etc... in the first place then this 'draw Mohammed day' wouldn't have even come about.

Its come about precisely because Muslims are intolerant of other people's views/opinions. Criticism, mockery of ANY religion is fair game in the west tbh... we have freedom of speech in the EU and US and frankly for a lot of educated people the idea of worshiping a magic sky pixie called Allah/God whatever or believing that a jew who did magic tricks or some illiterate bloke called Mohammed were either the son of god or some 'prophet' is a bit laughable. If you want to believe in magic and follow some ancient text because you're parents told you to then that's your life choice. Just don't get your knickers in a twist if people who are smarter than you don't respect your beliefs.
 
It the point of the draw this muslim guy day is to show that all the other religions in the world are not scared of the extremists and will not live in fear, we have a right to free speech etc etc.

The day's purpose isn't to offend people. It's message is deeper.
 
dowie said:
Perhaps if lots of people did it in a light hearted way then you'd see that there isn't anything to get worked up about in the first place - its just a drawing :)

If people hadn't massively overreacted to the danish cartoons, south park etc... in the first place then this 'draw Mohammed day' wouldn't have even come about.

Its come about precisely because a few Muslims are intolerant of other people's views/opinions even though those complaining most usually aren't faithful Muslims themselves! And so ensues the Bandwagon effect.
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dowie said:
Perhaps if lots of people did it in a light hearted way then you'd see that there isn't anything to get worked up about in the first place - its just a drawing :)

If people hadn't massively overreacted to the danish cartoons, south park etc... in the first place then this 'draw Mohammed day' wouldn't have even come about.

Its come about precisely because Muslims are intolerant of other people's views/opinions. Criticism, mockery of ANY religion is fair game in the west tbh... we have freedom of speech in the EU and US and frankly for a lot of educated people the idea of worshiping a magic sky pixie called Allah/God whatever or believing that a jew who did magic tricks or some illiterate bloke called Mohammed were either the son of god or some 'prophet' is a bit laughable. If you want to believe in magic and follow some ancient text because you're parents told you to then that's your life choice. Just don't get your knickers in a twist if people who are smarter than you don't respect your beliefs.
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Sorry, but that really is a bit condescending.
 
dowie said:
Its come about precisely because Muslims are intolerant of other people's views/opinions. Criticism, mockery of ANY religion is fair game in the west tbh...
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Oh right, "Muslims are intolerant" now?, not individuals?

Just because a few intolerant people were on the news, and they just happen to be Muslims, now all Muslims are intolerant. :rolleyes:
 
im sure this isnt racist right ? let me just post it here

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cant see how this any different from the nonsensical and offensive pictures of a religious figure! That will only anger muslims even more
 
asim18 said:
Oh right, "Muslims are intolerant" now?, not individuals?

Just because a few intolerant people were on the news, and they just happen to be Muslims, now all Muslims are intolerant. :rolleyes:
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Do you believe that islam is the only true religion and all who do not follow islam are infidels ?

Just interested in your response
 
dowie said:
Its come about precisely because Muslims are intolerant of other people's views/opinions. Criticism, mockery of ANY religion is fair game in the west tbh... we have freedom of speech in the EU and US and frankly for a lot of educated people the idea of worshiping a magic sky pixie called Allah/God whatever or believing that a jew who did magic tricks or some illiterate bloke called Mohammed were either the son of god or some 'prophet' is a bit laughable. If you want to believe in magic and follow some ancient text because you're parents told you to then that's your life choice. Just don't get your knickers in a twist if people who are smarter than you don't respect your beliefs.
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I don't really think education has much to do with peoples faith or belief of a god, it's their choice and just because they made that life choice doesn't mean they're uneducated. I'm sure you can find many religious doctors and scientists without even having to make a great deal of effort. Saying they're uneducated is on the same basis of saying "All Americans are fat" or "All English people have bad teeth", it's a pretty silly assumption to make.

The only thing I dislike about it all is people pressing their beliefs on to me, they're free to think what they like, and I won't even argue against it, I'll let them have them, but because they have rules they have to follow, doesn't mean I have the same, I.e. Not eating certain foods
 
asim18 said:
Oh right, "Muslims are intolerant" now?, not individuals?

Just because a few intolerant people were on the news, and they just happen to be Muslims, now all Muslims are intolerant. :rolleyes:
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asim18 said:
lmao, Seriously?

He didn't name any names. So why don't you just relax? There are racists on OcUK and that's what the post was aimed at..
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;) He said Muslims, could be 2, could be 2,000. He never said all.
 
Aedus said:
I don't really think education has much to do with peoples faith or belief of a god, it's their choice and just because they made that life choice doesn't mean they're uneducated.
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I'm not saying they're uneducated I'm just pointing out that for a lot of educated people religion is all a bit silly. Perhpas if Religious people questioned their faith a bit more actually did a bit of research into how it came about, what evidence actually supports it they might change their views etc... most prefer to stick their heads in the sand.

There are a fair few religions around the world, what makes them so sure they've got the right one - most people didn't pick their religion they just blindly follow whatever their parents do and get indoctrinated at a young age.
 
What doesn't make sense to me is that in the Muslim world websites are full of pictures and pages and pages of anti Christ and anti Jew (in fact anti any other then Muslim religion) pictures.

It doesn't only stop at this, there are well respected people in the Muslim communities educating their next generation of people not to tolerate other religons....

one group on facebook, a few cartoons, and its not acceptable... do that not seem hypocritical?
 
Hmmm, I just don't understand what the fuss is about. I remember when it all kicked off over the Danish cartoon and there was this guy doing a documentary on TV where he took holidays in the countrys that were part of the 'Axis of Evil'. Whilst in Iran he visited a shop and the owner showed him the last poster of Mohammed. He said that until the issue over the cartoon it had been one of the most popular posters and that it was only because the Muslim Clerics decided to take advantage of the situation that was occuring that they were told to remove all posters and make out like they were all offended over the Cartoon depiction.

So, is it really against Islam to depict pictures/posters of the prophet Mohammed or is this something cooked up by the Clerics for a bit of a giggle ? Has me really confused.

Besides, I see Islam, Church or England, Catholics all as bad as each other. I though that these religions preached that there is only one God and that it was supposed to be a sin to worship anyone other than that God. Yet the Muslims worship Mohammed as though he were a God, The CofE worship Jesus like he was God and the Catholics worship the Virgin Mary like she was some kind of God. Seems like all this Idol worship goes against the religions themselves to me. Please note that I don't do religion so reserve the right to be entirelly wrong about this.

Still, I look forward to having a chuckle at the cartoons, I personally wouldn't draw one because I know it would offend someone. I think they are idiots for being offended, non the less I wouldn't want to offend even an idiot, I'll let others do it and watch the innevitable fireworks.
 
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