Mazda Rx-8 What to look for when buying ??

its the people that buy them, some guy stacking shelves at Tesco could probably buy one yet they can't afford to run a sports cars so cry like a baby about the fuel cost and say the car is rubbish as a result. You don't see people with SL55's, M3', or STIs etc crying because they are expensive cars to run and similar MPG, because they can afford it and bought the cars for the performance.

And thats the problem, people who can afford to run them will just buy something better in the first place, the RX8 is in no-mans land, it's the answer to a question no-one asked.
 
So you have to be a good driver to get as much out of a RX8 as any driver can from a Z4? I don't mean to insult the RX8 here but if a car requires extra driving skills to perform as well as its contemporaries isn't that more a problem with the actual car than its drivers?

By that logic, then a fiesta must be a better car than the Z4 as any driver can get more out of it ;) Older 911s must be horrifically bad cars!
 
as they get older and older, and pile on the owners.... they become a dangerous purchase....

you should hear about the amount of rebuilds that my local rotary specialist has gotten through with rx8s.... business is booming once again!
 
All cars cost money mate. They are not investments. The problem with the RX8 is not the car, its the people that buy them, some guy stacking shelves at Tesco could probably buy one yet they can't afford to run a sports cars so cry like a baby about the fuel cost and say the car is rubbish as a result. You don't see people with SL55's, M3', or STIs etc crying because they are expensive cars to run and similar MPG, because they can afford it and bought the cars for the performance.

For the money you can get one now, they are the best car for your buck. You have to spend double to get something as good or better (or as listed above).

I'd go for one with lowest mileage possible and it will be fine. These knackard car's selling for £2k on ebay with "battery problems" (yeah right) are going to be more trouble than they are worth. To be honest they give the well maintained ones a bad name.

Buy one, enjoy it, then join the rest of the population and buy a diesel shopping trolly.

Great post.
 
Well most people can post nearly 30mpg on an average consumption with a mixture of driving so that is probably roughly 33-40% better than the average most people will get on a RX8.

So you can probably save £1000 there based on current petrol prices and average yearly mileage. Mine has had £200 in servicing costs in that time and I am fortunate to be on the same set of tyres I got with it originally. I can imagine a RX8 owned for the same period of 19 months would cost a lot more to maintain than that of my car. The engine in my car the M54 has built a reputation on reliability and very rarely has there been cases where it has gone wrong. So it may be far fetched to say they would work out about the same but with the risk factor of the engine failure you cant be far off.

The M54B30 was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list through 2001-2003.

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2000-2006 E46 330Ci
2000-2003 E39 530i
2000-2002 E36 Z3 3.0i
2003-2005 E60 530i
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2004-2006 E83 X3 3.0i
2001-2006 E53 X5 3.0i
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My friend had to pay on two occasions (£300 x2) to have the car repaired due to flooding it as it wouldn’t start a problem which is common with the RX8. Admittedly he didn’t know this was an issue the first time round and so learnt from his mistake and was much more careful and unfortunately couldn’t help the second time as his sister was driving and she was unaware too.

Why would you pay £300 twice to fix a flooded engine?

You might have been lucky and avoided any big bills on your Z4, but the same equally could apply to an Rx8. On average though I just don't understand the logic that it would cost £3-5k more to run over 18months unless you factor in a new engine! Yes fuel + oil will cost you more, perhaps as much as £1k if you do plenty of miles (which the OP says he won't be) .. but where is the other £2-4k going?
 
I thought this was only really an issue on earlier cars, didn't Mazda sort it out in 2004 - 2005?

He had an 04 plate model.

And no garage would buy it off him when it came to selling it and it was in great condition all round. Their reason and general feeling was that they wouldnt touch it with a barge pole and ended up just selling it for ridiculously cheap.
 
By that logic, then a fiesta must be a better car than the Z4 as any driver can get more out of it ;) Older 911s must be horrifically bad cars!

The Fiesta and the Z4 are not really contemporaries though are they, I don't recall seeing many Fiesta vs Z4 threads on the internet whereas threads like 300ZX vs supra or Impreza vs Evo are ten a penny. An by today's standards old 911's are bad cars considering their price point, you buy them because you like old 911's not because you want to dominate all.
 
The Fiesta and the Z4 are not really contemporaries though are they, I don't recall seeing many Fiesta vs Z4 threads on the internet whereas threads like 300ZX vs supra or Impreza vs Evo are ten a penny. An by today's standards old 911's are bad cars considering their price point, you buy them because you like old 911's not because you want to dominate all.

Well the fiesta coment was tongue in cheek, hence the winkey smiley.

However, I don't believe that catering for the lowest common denominator of driving ability should be a factor in determining whether a sports car is any good or not!
 
All cars cost money mate. They are not investments. The problem with the RX8 is not the car, its the people that buy them, some guy stacking shelves at Tesco could probably buy one yet they can't afford to run a sports cars so cry like a baby about the fuel cost and say the car is rubbish as a result. You don't see people with SL55's, M3', or STIs etc crying because they are expensive cars to run and similar MPG, because they can afford it and bought the cars for the performance.

For the money you can get one now, they are the best car for your buck. You have to spend double to get something as good or better (or as listed above).

I'd go for one with lowest mileage possible and it will be fine. These knackard car's selling for £2k on ebay with "battery problems" (yeah right) are going to be more trouble than they are worth. To be honest they give the well maintained ones a bad name.

Buy one, enjoy it, then join the rest of the population and buy a diesel shopping trolly.

No, you miss the point.
They are literally not worth buying, they are thirstier, slower, more badly made, and more unreliable than virtually every single one of their direct competitors.
 
No, you miss the point.
They are literally not worth buying, they are thirstier, slower, more badly made, and more unreliable than virtually every single one of their direct competitors.

You missed the cheaper part.

They are half the price of the equivilant S2000
 
No, you miss the point.
They are literally not worth buying, they are thirstier, slower, more badly made, and more unreliable than virtually every single one of their direct competitors.

But what are you comparing it against? For £4-5k you can't really compare it to the obvious 330's and 350Z's etc as their purchase price puts them out of contention. There isn't anything that really hits the nail on the head for a direct competitor that meets the the criteria the RX8 has?
 
But what are you comparing it against? For £4-5k you can't really compare it to the obvious 330's and 350Z's

You can quite easily compare it to a 330ci/i Granted it will be an older BMW for the money (2000-2001), but that's the compromise you have to make for not buying a quirky car that no-one really wants.

Yes, there are very few direct competitors that equal the exact age, mileage AND price, but the reason for that is yet again down to the fact that used RX8s hold no value because nobody wants one. It's logically obvious that to buy a car that is desirable will cost more for any given age/mileage.
 
You don't see people with SL55's, M3', or STIs etc crying because they are expensive cars to run and similar MPG, because they can afford it and bought the cars for the performance.

Yes - performance.

The RX8 does not offer the performance of an SL55, an M3 or an Impreza STI so the fact its as economical as one of those is frankly a downside not a plus side!
 
You can quite easily compare it to a 330ci/i Granted it will be an older BMW for the money (2000-2001), but that's the compromise you have to make for not buying a quirky car that no-one really wants.

Exactly, you have to make a compromise somewhere along the line to find an alternative car at this budget.
 
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