McCanns going too far?
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I'd like to know how many people in this thread - especially those saying "OMG THEY CAN'T EVER LET THEIR CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR SIGHT AGAIN!" - actually have children of their own.
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[TW]Fox said:
Well, yeah, after all there are paedo's round every corner. I can't move for tripping over all the bloody sex offenders in this country. It's just wall to wall perverts.
Culture of fear, people.
I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea to leave children out of sight while you are a whole 50 yards away, but at the end of the day this is pretty much entirely the fault of the abductor and laying the blame with the parents is like saying the rape victim asked for it because she wore a short skirt.
My wife and I have been known to sit in the garden while our baby sleeps in a room at the front of the house. I guess we're just lucky the child rapists haven't snatched her yet, huh?
vonhelmet said:
Culture of fear? It's actually happened though hasn't it.
I'd still distinguish between leaving a baby sleeping in your house whilst your in the garden and leave three very young children, alone, unsupervised, whilst you go for a meal someplace else, in a foreign country.
I'd say there is a culture of fear. When I was walking back from the shops there was a 10 year old kid about 20 yards in front. We both live in the same area, so "I was following him" as we got to a quieter area we looked around and ran off.
Also playing with petrol car kids start chatting to me and parents appear watching over me.
And no I'm not a peadophile.
Also playing with petrol car kids start chatting to me and parents appear watching over me.
And no I'm not a peadophile.
squiffy said:I'd say there is a culture of fear. When I was walking back from the shops there was a 10 year old kid about 20 yards in front. We both live in the same area, so "I was following him" as we got to a quieter area we looked around and ran off.
Also playing with petrol car kids start chatting to me and parents appear watching over me.
And no I'm not a peadophile.
Do you look like one?
jamiemoles said:
I hope so, if you think they neglected there children or not, there best chance of finding her is the media, something they have used like no one before them. the more media attention at this stage the better. We don't know what country she maybe in, it's not as if they're using the money for a holiday. there using the money to stay of work and visit possible country's to promote to the media there cause. I've got to say they have reacted since the abduction the best way they could.
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DailyGeek said:
Yes. How many times though? How often? How many sex offenders are there out there? How many as a percentage of the population?
DailyGeek said:
The children were asleep, but probably aware of where there parents were. They were unsupervised? Big deal, they were asleep. I'm not sure how it being a foreign country makes much difference, unless there's even more sex offenders in Portugal than England.
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AcidHell2 said:
I would have agreed entirely with that until today. If it is in fact true that they're planning on releasing a single into to the UK charts, then even I, a tough defender of their media actions, have to admit that that is utterly pointless. Their aim should be finding their daughter, going to countries, creating exposure and material in places of the world where she might be, where the country's native media haven't covered the abduction anything more than casually. Drumming up support and exposure in areas that need it. The UK is already saturated with media coverage of her, there's no need to waste time and money singing a song about her to us.
vonhelmet said:
It's an assumption to say it's a sex offender/paedophile. Could be some random nutter like on Corrie.
The foreign country issue really was because of the language barrier - it's not conducive to finding out whats happening, checking the kids are ok, talking to police etc in extreme circumstances. Things work differently in other cultures.
How old were these kids again? Aware of where there parents were? I thought they were < 3 years old? They don't know a hell of a lot, nevermind where the restaraunt was or how to get help i'd imagine.
I really wouldn't compare you being in the garden whilst your baby is asleep. Still within the confines of the home etc.
I can't understand people defending it? It was simply **** parenting surely?
iCraig said:
so how does realising a single contradict that, if it gets in the charts that is HUGE media attention, it's obviously huge media attention now as we're talking about it, that can not be a bad thing. If a single like that gets in the top 40 it will be reported on across the world, not just the uk.
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AcidHell2 said:
Really? But if that's the objective... to use it as a vehicle for exposure, there's more effective ways to do that. How is the coverage in the US? A big country, I wonder how many states are on the look out for Madeleine? I would try and crack America if it was me, inject some publicity in there rather than the filled to bursting UK. If you had Madeleine captive, where would you go? The UK? Better dye her hair quick. Or a quiet corner of California, where you could probably get away with not altering her appearance at all.
I'm aware the US is huge, but, they have a big fund, use it.
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DailyGeek said:
Irony++
DailyGeek said:
That's not the point - when you're considering going out to dinner and leaving your children in the hotel room asleep, you're not going to be thinking "Hmm, this language barrier is going to be a bugger if one of the kids gets abducted."
DailyGeek said:
Fair point. Just checked and they're only two. Indeed unlikely to be able to fetch help or whatever, but on the other hand, also likely to just sleep and not get into any trouble.
DailyGeek said:
It's comparable. Not as drastic, no, but still comparable.
DailyGeek said:
Yeah, sure. Call me when you've got kids and tell me how never letting them out of your sight - which you and others are pretty much advocating - works out.
vonhelmet said:
Actually the reasons I wouldn't do it feature peverts far down on the list - more living kids under 3 in a room on their own with running water, electricity and suchlike is just pathetically stupid.
Slightly different to a restuarant dont you think? Would you leave your 2 year old at home whilst you went to the pub at the end of the road?
DailyGeek said:
The only explanation i can take is some people here think it's acceptable, i'm guessing as ******* useless as our social services are these are the people they should be dealing with. that is why the social services are set up right? to make sure dumb arse parents look after their kids right.
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Hixxy said:
It's not acceptable as such, but it's also not their fault.
Call me a dumb arse again and I'll RTM you.