McCanns going too far?

Kronologic said:
How can you say without a shadow of a doubt it was an abduction?

The portuguese police say she was abducted - and they have access to the FACTS.

Kronologic said:
And if it was how did the abductor get it? Surely the door was locked.

The window.

Kronologic said:
If there was an abduction why did the abductor only take 1 out of the 3 children?

Because he can only keep one child quiet at once.

Kronologic said:
Would she have been abducted if the parents were there?

I don't know, its possible though.

Kronologic said:
In my opinion Maddy would not have gone missing if her parents were supervising her or if they had gotten a responsible, accountable person to look after their children in their absence.

The fact is young children should not be left unattended and any manner of things could have happened to them. So the responsibility has to lie with the parents if they demonstrated that they were not acting responsibility.

Depends of course, but it doesn't sound like this was a random abduction. I think that if a paedophile wants your kid then its down to pure chance if you can stop them. Thats why its vital we have laws like Sarah's Law to protect our kids. Obviously the McCann's gave him too much of an opportunity - and they've learnt that the hard way, but if they'd have known there were paedos in the area, would they have done what they did?
 
Wonder how long it is before its before Hollywood commission the film version.

The book or their autobiography's will be out for Chrimbo.

I do hope she is found safe and well BTW.

It's just a pity there isn't half this focus on other kids that go missing through no fault of their parents. Only limited coverage on the little lad the other day for example.
 
Lets say that she's found on Malta, just going by today's latest news, what will be done with all the money then? Will they donate it to a charity or will they just quietly disappear from the news?
 
Let's not forget that the McCanns had at least 20 different people in their room BEFORE they phoned the police. When the police said that their actions destroyed vital evidence they said that the police were insensitive.

I am sorry, but if my child was missing the first thing I would do (after checking the room myself of course) is to phone the police and not let anyone else in. The last thing I would do would be to let 20 strangers have a look around.

I have been completely cynical about this incident since it started. Don't you think it is a little convenient that any evidence has been destroyed by allowing so many people in the room? A little convenient that they declined to use the free sitting service and said they will do it themselves. And then to accuse the police of being insensitive after allowing the evidence to be destroyed?

Something doesn't quite fit in all of this. I genuinely beleive that the father had something to do with it. Of course if you point the finger at him he has a considerable amount of public opinion behind him and through the weight of the media it becomes you who is subject to the spotlight for daring to accuse someone in their time of sorrow.

Isn't it well known that you are more likely to get murdered or raped by someone you know. I think he is suspect and I don't buy all this sob story, I think its a cover up. He is a intelligent man and we should not underestimate what he may be capable of. He just doesn't seem genuine when you see him on those press reports. His wife does. But there is something about him, and this whole episode that doesn't quite fit.

I think the Portuguese police beleive this on the quiet as well, but they just don't have enough evidence to nail him - yet. He also turned the spotlight on them as well to make them appear inadequate. If he has done something to her himself, he is playing a very clever game indeed.
 
Azagoth said:
Lets say that she's found on Malta, just going by today's latest news, what will be done with all the money then? Will they donate it to a charity or will they just quietly disappear from the news?

My faith in humanity (and the media) tells me that the latter won't happen.

steviec said:
It's just a pity there isn't half this focus on other kids that go missing through no fault of their parents. Only limited coverage on the little lad the other day for example.

Has it been confirmed that someone was actually abducted? Last I heard someone reported seeing an abduction though no-one has been reported missing, the police are rightly treating the report seriously though.
 
i just dont understand why the parents are travelling around the world. if ** child goes missing in portugal why the hell do u go to another country other than home. its not like your gunna be walking around in some random country and be like, wow there is my daughter.

and yes i do believe they will milk it enough that they get books/films and when the child is found dead or alive they will be on every tv show possible. and that fund i cant see that being donated, there probably just hoping that everyone forgets about it.
 
the-void said:
Most of what you say is BS anyway so I take that as a compliment.
;)

I'll tell you what, give me one good reason why the police should bring him in as a suspect and I'll concede and edit my post.
 
iCraig said:
I'll tell you what, give me one good reason why the police should bring him in as a suspect and I'll concede and edit my post.

You don't have to edit your post on my behalf. I have already stated my opinion and I can live with your BS posts. Have you ever had gut instinct about something?
 
the-void said:
You don't have to edit your post on my behalf. I have already stated my opinion. Have you ever had gut instinct about something?

So they should treat him as a suspect based on your gut instinct? Genius.
 
iCraig said:
So they should treat him as a suspect based on your gut instinct? Genius.

It was a question not an answer.

I'll tell you what, if you don't like my opinion that's fine. I have stated my mine and you don't agree.

I don't have to answer to you.

You don't think it strange they let 20 people in the room?
:rolleyes:
 
stumpy187 said:
i just dont understand why the parents are travelling around the world. if ** child goes missing in portugal why the hell do u go to another country other than home. its not like your gunna be walking around in some random country and be like, wow there is my daughter.

Because there have been "sightings" of Maddy there, of course, its unlikely to actually be her but just in case it is, wouldn't you go? The reason they go is to raise the profile of Maddy in the local media in that country, see if anyone thinks they saw her as well.

Sheesh, I can't believe people are actually accusing the McCann's of using the abduction of their daughter as an excuse for some sort of holiday round the world.
 
iCraig said:
I'm not going to bother responding to the rest of your sentence, as it doesn't make any sense. How can they be solely responsible? They didn't abduct her.

Erm lol you responded. Timmeh.

I agree with Mr White by the way, they shouldn't have left her alone in their apartment let alone in a foreign country and it's their fault.
 
What I don't get is this:

What the hell were both of them thinking at the time? Yeah OK, so kidnapping at the time probably didn't figure because maybe it seemed slighty far fetched, but we live in different times these days so anything is a possibility.

Even if you don't figure a kidnapping would happen surely things like the kids injuring themselves or the apt catching fire etc would flag up in your mind? Surely your kids life is worth more than one nights babysitting charge?
 
the-void said:
It was a question not an answer.
the-void said:
I think he is suspect and I don't buy all this sob story, I think its a cover up.

Sounds more like a statement rather than a question to me. :)

the-void said:
I'll tell you what, if you don't like my opinion that's fine. I have stated my mine and you don't agree.

I don't have to answer to you.

Indeed you don't, but this is a discussion forum. Do you not want people to respond to your view point? What would be the point in that? Why not just write your thoughts down on a piece of paper and keep it to yourself?

the-void said:
You don't think it strange they let 20 people in the room?
:rolleyes:

No. A girl had gone missing, the family and the staff will look all over their apartment to try and find her. What should they do? Jump out of the room, cordon it off and call the police? With hindsight they should have limited exposure to the room, but when your little girl has disappeared would you think rationally and objectively from an unknown view point that your little girl has been abducted and police may require forensic evidence later on during the case. :confused:
 
iCraig said:
Sounds more like a statement rather than a question to me. :)

So now you are resorting to misquoting people? :rolleyes:

iCraig said:
Indeed you don't, but this is a discussion forum. Do you not want people to respond to your view point? What would be the point in that? Why not just write your thoughts down on a piece of paper and keep it to yourself?

Now now sweetie. You think my post was drivel and I think you talk BS. Why can't we just love each other? :)

iCraig said:
No. A girl had gone missing, the family and the staff will look all over their apartment to try and find her. What should they do? Jump out of the room, cordon it off and call the police? With hindsight they should have limited exposure to the room, but when your little girl has disappeared would you think rationally and objectively from an unknown view point that your little girl has been abducted and police may require forensic evidence later on during the case. :confused:

LOL. It takes 20 people to find her in a hotel room? Come on. How big was this room?

You really think that because he is her father that he is beyond suspicion. As I have already said the police probably don't have enough evidence.

I also would have imagined that police work relies quite a lot on hunches and gut feelings. It is the nature of the job to suspect people FFS. :rolleyes:
You keep reading the mirror and wiping your eyes.
 
Give it a few more weeks, and Paul McCartney might re-release Yesterday. Better yet, see if Elton John can knock up Candle in the Wind 2!

This media stuff in relation to such a tragic event makes me ill, and only goes to cheapen the whole dreadful situation.
 
the-void said:
So now you are resorting to misquoting people? :rolleyes:

It was the only reference to him being a suspect in your rant. Can you repeat the question about him being a subject then? Whatever it was.

the-void said:
Now now sweetie. You think my post was drivel and I think you talk BS. Why can't we just love each other? :)

That kind of condescension only works when you haven't just blatantly sidestepped a point that you find yourself incapable of answering. :)

the-void said:
LOL. It takes 20 people to find her in a hotel room? Come on. How big was this room?

It wasn't just the room, and it's a total of more than 20 people. Moving in and out throughout the night of her disappearance.

the-void said:
You really think that because he is her father that he is beyond suspicion. As I have already said the police probably don't have enough evidence.

Never said that, he could well be involved but, and this is quite a big but, there is no reason to suspect him. Right now, there's the same amount of evidence that Jeremy Beadle is involved. Is he a suspect too? :p

the-void said:
I also would have imagined that police work relies quite a lot on hunches and gut feelings. It is the nature of the job to suspect people FFS.

Police work requires conjecture, not speculation. In order to bring someone in as a suspect, you need evidence. There has only been a small amount of evidence on two men so far, who were treated as suspects, but they were released because the evidence wasn't big enough to warrant further question, and further searches yielded nothing. Technically the two men who were brought in by police have more evidence on them than Mr MCann, yet you think he did it, rather than the people who are logically more likely to be involved. Why hold that claim? Let me guess, a gut instinct again. :p
 
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