memory timings advice

Nickolp1974 · 3 Jan 2013 at 12:35

firstly congrats, have a feeling your gonna be very busy

system in sig, and have since added another 2 sticks, can you give any advice on timings, i have tried 1t but just wont go, it did with 2 sticks and went upto 2.5GHz

8 Pack · 3 Jan 2013 at 16:07

Sure I can help.

So your now using 4 x 4gb sticks in this board. The sticks are these???

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-020-AR&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517

Can I also ask have you tuned the secondary timings at all???

Nickolp1974 · 3 Jan 2013 at 16:19

thx bud, no there these http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-022-AR&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1387

edit: how much difference does having 4 sticks make to clocks, stabillity etc??? only bought 'em cos they look good, do not need 16GB at all, whats your thoughts on this?

and not tuned any timings, with 4

with 2 sticks could run (off memory) 10-12-11-30 1T @2424MHz

8 Pack · 3 Jan 2013 at 16:33

There is quite a few things to try with this. The ability to do 1t is not just dependent on the RAM though its also due to the strength of the IMC on the CPU with full dimm population and the Bios your working with.

Do me a favour and grade me a screen shot of the memory settings in Bios and I will advise from that. Lets hope it offers plenty of scope for change.

Nickolp1974 · 3 Jan 2013 at 16:45

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Nickolp1974 · 3 Jan 2013 at 17:01

on my current overclock profile if i set my ram to manual/link instead of xmp/auto and use the timings 10-14-12-31 2t i get bsod code 50 which i believe is unstable timings/frequency

8 Pack · 3 Jan 2013 at 22:38

Correct 50 is exactly that.

I will test that RAM tomorrow for you at OCUK and get back. But the secondarys are looking the problem to me. Too tight!!!

Nickolp1974 · 3 Jan 2013 at 23:03

Thx bud, secondry's as in the 14?
When just running 2 sticks on auto they set themselves too 11-12-12-31 2t

8 Pack · 3 Jan 2013 at 23:09

No they are primary

Its TRFC and below on your Bios.

It should be running 10-12-12-31 though.

Nickolp1974 · 3 Jan 2013 at 23:18

Would it help if i removed 2 sticks and take another bios shot so you can see what its doing?

Nickolp1974 · 4 Jan 2013 at 13:22

just to let you know, i took 2 sticks out and the only setting which changed was tRCD which went to 12 instead of 14 with the 4 sticks

8 Pack · 4 Jan 2013 at 13:52

Yeah that does help.

The problem is in the bios then its not relaxing the timings for four sticks on the secondary and lower timings. Hence why you cant do 1T.

Nickolp1974 · 4 Jan 2013 at 13:57

can we just focus on the 2 sticks, like i said i dont need 16GB(for now), they seem to play havoc when trying to oc.
oh and just off topic, my cpu is very voltage hungry to get stable, at 4.8 i need at least 1.5v to get a benchmark in(say vantage) yet my VID reads 1.336, what other voltage can i push besides vcore???

Nickolp1974 · 4 Jan 2013 at 14:38

again to give you more info, whilst oc'ing been getting various bsod's and codes, 3b,24,50 etc but one common denominator is that ntoskrnl.exe is also being shown, which i believe is linked to memory??? would bad timings give this??

8 Pack · 4 Jan 2013 at 16:16

All of those are linked to memory mate.

I have raised the four stick problem with MSI and am looking at this direct with the bios engineers.

What are your voltages for 24/7 then. Also that Vdroop looks massive are you applying any LLC???

Nickolp1974 · 4 Jan 2013 at 16:49

LLC?? Vdroop offset control is set to 100%
Been having a play with clocks today, and just with my 2 newer sticks of ram it appears i need less vcore now for 4.8, still 1.45v mind!! i NEED one of those binned chips!!

I'll work on a 24/7 setting tomorrow and will post then, Thx for your time 8Pack

wazza300 · 4 Jan 2013 at 16:52

llc=loadline calibration to combat cpu vdroop

Nickolp1974 · 4 Jan 2013 at 17:17

wazza300 said:
llc=loadline calibration to combat cpu vdroop

i know what it stands for, thx wazza!!

there is no option on my board unless its called something else

heres whats going on at 4.4 everything on auto, when its idleling vcor is on 1.280

wazza300 · 4 Jan 2013 at 17:25

haha sorry,

its a strange board if theres no llc options,they normally come in levels 1-5 or low to extreme

unless it applies it automatically idk?

theres no offset either or power saving is there?

Nickolp1974 · 4 Jan 2013 at 17:28

wazza300 said:
haha sorry,

its a strange board if theres no llc options,they normally come in levels 1-5 or low to extreme

unless it applies it automatically idk?

theres an option called digital compensation level??? options are High or auto

to be honest i'm nearly tempted to try a different board due to the lack of info on it.