**** Microsoft Surface Pro 4 Thread ****

posts like that always amuse me in any hardware thread. go use the warranty on a clearly broke device.

No need for sarcasm, although the 'clearly broke' part does give me a smidge of confidence that they'll see it that way and I can just chuck it back at them for a refund. We'll see.

I've not seen any of those issues. What do you mean when you say the screen auto adjusts?

The brightness seems to be unable to settle at the lowest setting, goes up and down by a very small amount. By a bit of searching, I'm not the only one, same with the popping.
 
exciting, and looks good, yay for headphone jack almost being in the correct place on the bottom side, however as most people are right handed it should be on the left side so it doesn't interfere with mouse usage.

i fear though that these will be priced to expensive and far to close to m or even full i5 tablet, but time will tell. I hope not as I want one or something very similar. combine that with a gaming laptop and I would be sorted.


edit - ok perhaps not that one, wtf teh kickstand is built into the keyboard. insane in this day and age. also as it would almost exclusively be media consumption, 16:9 display would be nice from one of the oems.
 
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Would be interesting to see what the full on reviews will be like, and how well the x86 emulation works. If it still offers good performance, hopefully compared to Atom versions (unless this ends up with a premium price), then maybe this will finally become what Microsoft hoped Windows 8 ARM could've been?

Yeah it does look a bit strange having the kickstand part of the keyboard. I could understand them trying to be different, but they could've maybe had the stand and keyboard as two seperate parts instead if they didn't want to copy the Surface.
 
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I'm not buying into the whole ARM/x86 emulation stuff tbh, give it a year and the newer Intel stuff will have enough power for Win10 and all day + battery...
 
I'm not buying into the whole ARM/x86 emulation stuff tbh, give it a year and the newer Intel stuff will have enough power for Win10 and all day + battery...
Its not just power intel need to add, arm include WiFi, LTE, Bluetooth etc on the chip. Making it smaller, cheaper and more power effecient.
 
Also, the ARM Windows 10 things all seem to be Windows 10 S, so they will go the same way as Windows RT.

Microsoft should really make the Surface 2 update to Windows 10 S.
 
Also, the ARM Windows 10 things all seem to be Windows 10 S, so they will go the same way as Windows RT.

Microsoft should really make the Surface 2 update to Windows 10 S.
Nope it's upgradable to full windows.
And cost to manufacture/cost to sonsumers. If you had read then you would find I said "i fear though that these will be priced to expensive and far to close to m or even full i5 tablet"
 
Nope it's upgradable to full windows.
And cost to manufacture/cost to sonsumers. If you had read then you would find I said "i fear though that these will be priced to expensive and far to close to m or even full i5 tablet"

Out of the box it's still Windows S.
Are they really easily to update to W10 full?
 
S is better than RT.
I had S on my Dell Venue 8 Pro for a while and it was ok, when I used RT it was on a SurfaceRT and I ended up carrying around a laptop as well to fill the gaps..
 
I found the biggest issue with RT was the lack of flash on websites/or the lack of apps depending how you looked at it. Surface 2 is still the best media consumption tablet I've had. Android and even the full windows tablets I've had just haven't been the same.
 
I found the biggest issue with RT was the lack of flash on websites/or the lack of apps depending how you looked at it. Surface 2 is still the best media consumption tablet I've had. Android and even the full windows tablets I've had just haven't been the same.

The flash on websites was easy to fix.
The app situation wasn't

I find my Surface 2 to be an acceptable portable media consumption device however.
 
S is better than RT.
I had S on my Dell Venue 8 Pro for a while and it was ok, when I used RT it was on a SurfaceRT and I ended up carrying around a laptop as well to fill the gaps..

No doubt that Windows 10 S is better than RT.
But S is limited. I imagine the same people that are happy to talk up S are the same people who swore RT wouldn't fail (Glaucus for example)
 
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