Yes but it takes time to try such things. If I was getting paid to do it, fine, but I have enough home network admin stuff to do without testing unnecessary OS upgrades on my servers.
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Microsoft updates support policy: New CPUs will require Windows 10
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you should care even if you are not a business, because if there is no support and lack of updates, you ultimately end up instability, increased power draw, and lower performance relative to Windows 10.
even gamers should be concerned, and i do care because i dont wanna be blackmailed into migrating to Win10, even if win10 is better than win7 like some say, so what i dont wanna migrate, isn't that my right ? so why make it hell for me to stay, keep naging me and pushing me into the edge for me to jump.
i really wish microsoft slips, and end up with some serious class action lawsuit over win10 crap.
Do you honestly think that somebody buying a future Intel CPU will not be able to physicallly install Win7, or get updates?
I honestly don't even know how they could implement that.
Win7 will use any x86 CPU just fine, right? I also don't see them stopping Win7 machines from getting updates based on the CPU it has.
I don't see they can stop anything other than tech support.
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Microsoft just want to reduce fragmentation.
i have no idea about the requirement of win10 for newer cpu, thats probably aimed at OEMs, i dont see how they can manage it on the global pc market.
but my point was about the updates, they wont do updates related to new cpu optimization, stability, security etc...even though WIN7 support should stay up to 2020, so over time games will start crashing, performing badly, overall OS instability etc, because the updates will go to win10 only, so yes this is bad and concerns you too.
Assuming a certain amount of support (hardware/feature rather than just technical) is lacking that is going to present a problem as a lot of businesses remain on older versions of Windows for quite a long time for very valid reasons but in the meantime they are increasingly going to have to replace hardware with systems that use newer CPUs, etc. especially if the idea is to stop companies bundling older OSes with new hardware deployment that is going to cause some incredible problems. (Obviously at some point this has to give, you can't expect older hardware support for forever - but its not unreasonable to expect support over a few years rather than being pushed in months).
MS seems to be going further and further up head up arse territory with Windows 10 and I don't get their strategy if anything its likely to progressively make Linux actually look like not such a bad option for people who in the past wouldn't even consider it over Windows.
MS seems to be going further and further up head up arse territory with Windows 10 and I don't get their strategy if anything its likely to progressively make Linux actually look like not such a bad option for people who in the past wouldn't even consider it over Windows.
but how funny would it be, to buy a new cpu just to end up with unstable OS, bugs and glitch, software that crash, benchmarks falling way behind etc... that's the point, poison your life under Win7, so that you move over to Win10.
and entreprises that wanna keep old OS will cost them more, btw the migration over win10 isn't as good as microsoft let ppl believe, they say 200mil ppl moved to win10 devices, but that's misleading, these devices include much more than PC, it includes phones, tablets and a lot of other crap, beside they are starting basicaly to force OEMs to sell win10 laptop and pc, ppl who doesn't know better who got moved by auto update, or ppl who just got enough of the msg nagging.
but in reality very little number of PC users, actualy switched from Win7 to Win10
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But how many of those features require anything more than a 3rd party driver?
Now Intel may well not want to write drivers for win7 anymore, or MS might persuade them not to, I guess.
But you already have to install a bunch of drivers to enable all the functionality of current chipsets/CPUs.
Sounds alright by me.
Windows biggest problem is the backwards compatibility it carries. If the latest windows runs the latest hardware better, so be it.
Many people neither upgrade hardware nor software between PC changes.
Enterprise users are not gamers nor overclockers and only want reliability, ease of use for staff and workforce with decent network speeds and productivity. They will usually only change OS as a group policy.
If you have a retail windows 7 edition, you are covered for the upgrade, with an OEM copy , you should have a new version for newer hardware but many get by.
Personally I have had zero issue with windows 10 pro upgraded from 7 ultimate retail, I like it.
Windows biggest problem is the backwards compatibility it carries. If the latest windows runs the latest hardware better, so be it.
Many people neither upgrade hardware nor software between PC changes.
Enterprise users are not gamers nor overclockers and only want reliability, ease of use for staff and workforce with decent network speeds and productivity. They will usually only change OS as a group policy.
If you have a retail windows 7 edition, you are covered for the upgrade, with an OEM copy , you should have a new version for newer hardware but many get by.
Personally I have had zero issue with windows 10 pro upgraded from 7 ultimate retail, I like it.
Potentially it goes beyond chipset drivers and simple patches - you can't just run Windows on any CPU or things like emulators wouldn't exist
and Intel doesn't have the capabilities to change some of the lower level Windows functionality via drivers or software patches should it come to it (that is in MS's hands).This is assuming it goes beyond just technical support (though even that could be a problem for some businesses) and actual hardware/software implementation.
At the end of the day , you can't expect a company to support 1 product forever . The gauarantee for most products is 5 years in the uk . If your having support problem after that imo ....tough
And i'm on windows 7 myself
And i'm on windows 7 myself
nobody is asking them to support it forever, but the end of support is 2020 not 2017 like they want to do for cpu, it's not like they are stoping update for CPUs , no they keep FX,xeon,hawsel,opteron...covered to 2020, But if you want to get a New CPU like Zen, well your support ends in 2017, it's just backward usualy you call old cpu legacy and move on, but here they are telling you you better get WIN10 if you want to upgrade your CPU.
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Potentially it goes beyond chipset drivers and simple patches - you can't just run Windows on any CPU or things like emulators wouldn't exist
But we're not talking running Windows7 on PowerPC, or ARM, or MIPS, or the Sega Megadrive
We're talking a near future x86_64 CPU.
But we're not talking running Windows7 on PowerPC, or ARM, or MIPS, or the Sega Megadrive
We're talking a near future x86_64 CPU.
Same principles apply though - a certain amount of changes to the CPU will require MS cooperation for it to work best with Windows.
Could understand if we were talking about XP but we aren't quite there yet with 7.
Not sure where you're going with that XP comment?
Anyway, there's very little that they could do with Kaby Lake that would cause Win7 to have stability or crashing issues with it, as was suggested by another poster.
Win7 might not be the /best/ platform for such CPUs, fine, but I can't see how a future x86_64 CPU would cause instability in Win7.
If you can think of an example, do tell
