Naples has been a **** hole since before WW2.
Migrants - Italy making a stand
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Naples has been a **** hole since before WW2.
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Going to Rome this weekend. Given that I'm a brit born asian chap I am a tad nervous as I do have a short temper. A friend of mine returned a week ago (also asian) and he didn't have an easy time in the Trastevere part of the city. He and his wife had a horrible time there visiting a lot of touristy spots because they were inundated with beggers and they were very aggressive at times. No one even helped them on two occasions and they lost a cheapy watch as a result.
Just quoting this for accuracy, I’ve been in Majorca the last 2 weeks and they are everywhere.
What’s annoying is they don’t care what you are doing, we were having dinner in a nice restaurant and they still walked over to us trying to sell us sunglasses, bags, watches etc while we were eating.
The amount of African women doing hair braiding has tripled since I was there last year, every few feet and an African is trying to sell you something.
I've been thinking along those lines for awhile - it has still got one leg in the needs of 30 years ago and needs reform to better take into account the real situation today.
A little fact that doesn't seem to be getting much traction is that illegal immigration into the EU is down 95% from it's peak in 2015.
It's almost like the right wing politicians are misrepresenting what is currently going on just to stir up populist support during an election cycle...but I'm sure that's not the case.
It's almost like the right wing politicians are misrepresenting what is currently going on just to stir up populist support during an election cycle...but I'm sure that's not the case.
I have no doubt it is annoying, but it sounds even worse for them.
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These numbers are sheer madness, given at least 550 more arrive weekly in Paris alone. Quite unsustainable, whilst the EU mull over the issue it gets worse and worse, the EU has shown itself incapable of dealing with situation by a joint embargo on all NGO ships docking at EU ports until the ones here already are processed and their claims scrutinised. The only good side, to me, is it will probably cause the break up of the Bloc and countries can be free to deal with illegal immigration without hindrance from Brussels. From today's Telegraph:
Illegal migrants in Paris suburb soar to 400,000 as hundreds of migrant children sleep on streets
5 July 2018 • 2:03pm
Illegal immigrants, now estimated to make up a fifth of the population of Seine-Saint-Denis, north-east of Paris, are severely straining public services and creating social tensions, according to a parliamentary report.
Seine-Saint-Denis has long been the French department with the highest proportion of immigrants, but the report warns that the number of illegal migrants may have risen as high as 400,000.
The report catalogues what the conservative newspaper Le Figaro describes as “the incredible deterioration of social, economic and security conditions” in the area, where 28 per cent of the population lives below the poverty line.
Police, schools, courts and other public services are struggling to cope, while the presence of undocumented foreign nationals is blocking the implementation of effective policies by the authorities, argue the two MPs who wrote the report.
Rodrigue Koukouendo, from President Emmanuel Macron’s centrist party, and François Cornut-Gentille from the centre-Right Republicans, are urging the government to review France’s ban on gathering data on the ethnic makeup of the population so that immigrant numbers can be better monitored and regulated.
“To identify urban phenomena of ghettoisation, to explain educational difficulties, to combat discrimination and to adapt the resources of the police and the judiciary to a specific population, the question of establishing so-called ethnic statistics is raised,” the report says.
French law prohibits the collection of data based on race, ethnicity or religion, a rule intended to guarantee equal treatment, but critics argue that it is outdated and leaves minorities vulnerable.
The report argues that urgent plans must be made to combat poverty, high unemployment, the emergence of a parallel economy in some areas, and trafficking of people and drugs which it says have taken over some districts.
Conservative MPs are also calling for the abolition of a scheme that gives illegal immigrants access to free health care provided they have a stable place of residence and income.
Campaigners also claim that hundreds of unaccompanied migrant children are being left to sleep on the streets of Paris because of flawed age assessment procedures.
Last year France’s child welfare system took more than 25,000 underage migrants into care, but Human Rights Watch argues that under-18s are often wrongly classified as adults.
An estimated 550 migrants arrive in Paris each week.
Most cross the border from Italy, where there are no systematic border checks under the Schengen agreement."
Parisians demanding tougher policies and more deportations complain that the capital has become “the new Calais”.
Mr Macron has promised to speed up processing of asylum applications and the expulsion of migrants who do not qualify.
Illegal migrants in Paris suburb soar to 400,000 as hundreds of migrant children sleep on streets
5 July 2018 • 2:03pm
Illegal immigrants, now estimated to make up a fifth of the population of Seine-Saint-Denis, north-east of Paris, are severely straining public services and creating social tensions, according to a parliamentary report.
Seine-Saint-Denis has long been the French department with the highest proportion of immigrants, but the report warns that the number of illegal migrants may have risen as high as 400,000.
The report catalogues what the conservative newspaper Le Figaro describes as “the incredible deterioration of social, economic and security conditions” in the area, where 28 per cent of the population lives below the poverty line.
Police, schools, courts and other public services are struggling to cope, while the presence of undocumented foreign nationals is blocking the implementation of effective policies by the authorities, argue the two MPs who wrote the report.
Rodrigue Koukouendo, from President Emmanuel Macron’s centrist party, and François Cornut-Gentille from the centre-Right Republicans, are urging the government to review France’s ban on gathering data on the ethnic makeup of the population so that immigrant numbers can be better monitored and regulated.
“To identify urban phenomena of ghettoisation, to explain educational difficulties, to combat discrimination and to adapt the resources of the police and the judiciary to a specific population, the question of establishing so-called ethnic statistics is raised,” the report says.
French law prohibits the collection of data based on race, ethnicity or religion, a rule intended to guarantee equal treatment, but critics argue that it is outdated and leaves minorities vulnerable.
The report argues that urgent plans must be made to combat poverty, high unemployment, the emergence of a parallel economy in some areas, and trafficking of people and drugs which it says have taken over some districts.
Conservative MPs are also calling for the abolition of a scheme that gives illegal immigrants access to free health care provided they have a stable place of residence and income.
Campaigners also claim that hundreds of unaccompanied migrant children are being left to sleep on the streets of Paris because of flawed age assessment procedures.
Last year France’s child welfare system took more than 25,000 underage migrants into care, but Human Rights Watch argues that under-18s are often wrongly classified as adults.
An estimated 550 migrants arrive in Paris each week.
Most cross the border from Italy, where there are no systematic border checks under the Schengen agreement."
Parisians demanding tougher policies and more deportations complain that the capital has become “the new Calais”.
Mr Macron has promised to speed up processing of asylum applications and the expulsion of migrants who do not qualify.
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It'll always be the city of love, just most of it is non-consensual now.
I'm ashamed to say that I laughed at that
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Now they are battering down.doors in Spain!.
The moment dozens of migrants stormed into Spain past stunned NUDIST beach goers after Spanish mayor warns his nearby town is becoming 'the new Lampedusa'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-warns-town-new-migrant-crisis-epicentre.html
Look like economic migrants not fleeing refugees women and children to me
The moment dozens of migrants stormed into Spain past stunned NUDIST beach goers after Spanish mayor warns his nearby town is becoming 'the new Lampedusa'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-warns-town-new-migrant-crisis-epicentre.html
Look like economic migrants not fleeing refugees women and children to me
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DAT'S RACIST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~!
Think of these poor women and children.
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Seriously, it's an invasion without any bullets being fired.
If they wanted to come here, they should do it legally, like any of us here on this forum have to do if we move someone else.
If they wanted to come here, they should do it legally, like any of us here on this forum have to do if we move someone else.
Soldato
Came back from Rome 2 weekends back. Didn't get pick pocketed once although I am very observant. Didn't use my fanny bag and just kept some cash in my pocket and kept my right hand in said pocket at all times with my S8+ in my left hand. Not a single issue.
The sheer amount of immigrants over there is staggering I kid you not. We were situated 8 minutes from the Colosseaum and had no issues until you goto practically any Basilica - then you're instantly swamped.
Visiting the Vatican was a bad experience to start with as a fellow Indian chap (British born Hindu lad here) grabbed my arm as I exited a station and told me to go down a nearby street for cheap tickets. I told him I already had tickets and in Italian to pee off. He still wouldn't let go so I grabbed his other arm and silently began to crush it whilst staring him down. He then let go and went to harass another couple. As we continued to our tour meeting point there were a further dozen or so guys all lining the streets but they weren't physical. It partially ruined our day and I wasn't in the best of moods as a result.
The tour guide told our small group that this is a normal experience and the police just can't control it anymore.
The sheer amount of immigrants over there is staggering I kid you not. We were situated 8 minutes from the Colosseaum and had no issues until you goto practically any Basilica - then you're instantly swamped.
Visiting the Vatican was a bad experience to start with as a fellow Indian chap (British born Hindu lad here) grabbed my arm as I exited a station and told me to go down a nearby street for cheap tickets. I told him I already had tickets and in Italian to pee off. He still wouldn't let go so I grabbed his other arm and silently began to crush it whilst staring him down. He then let go and went to harass another couple. As we continued to our tour meeting point there were a further dozen or so guys all lining the streets but they weren't physical. It partially ruined our day and I wasn't in the best of moods as a result.
The tour guide told our small group that this is a normal experience and the police just can't control it anymore.
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I think the best course of action is to ignore the problem until the people of Europe elect Vlad Tepes’ less tolerant, modern day equivalent.
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It's not an invasion, they were basically told to make the Journey here. Over the next 50 years there will be tens if not hundreds of millions trying to make the crossings.
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There is plenty of space in Europe for migrants but we need to help them more when they get here with education etc.
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Lol.
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There's even more space in Africa.
Europe land mass: 10.18 million km²
Africa land mass: 30.37 million km²
Europe land mass: 10.18 million km²
Africa land mass: 30.37 million km²