Miss England- Having a laugh?

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What's a fat day?

Is it a really good day as in "wow, today has just been phat"?

Is it a day spent mainly eating fat i.e. pork scratchings?

Is it a day when she gorges herself on crap food?

Or is it a day where she spends it feeling crap about her body?
 
No, that is not an average mans routine at all. Go into town on an evening, you will see all the clones (just like the women) who have spent quite a while on choosing the right clothes, sorting their face out and also sorting the hair.
Metrosexual isnt a fantasy term, it applies to a lot of men!

Magazines and papers.... how many mens mags are there now with ripped blokes on the front, generally with a tasty woman nearby?
How many lads mags show 'stunning' women who happen to be dating fit blokes? Most of them. You never see stunners with Vegas / Moyles sized men.
More and more women are taking notice of top sports stars, so are wanting that shape of man.

You might not be caught by the marketing, but many men are.
I do go into town, at least twice a week (I live and work in London, the "poncy" town of England at that..) and don't see anywhere near as many as you describe. Far, far more men who just wack on a pair of shoes and a shirt than those who don't, yet the women are the complete opposite and you'll often see that the women who don't make a massive effort with regards to make up and dressing up, will be labelled lesbian or feminist by the blokes.

Flick through any magazine or news paper, how many articles will you see about the pair of trousers David Beckham picked for his latest party (that isn't soley on the "omg how much?!" factor,) compared to the outfit Jennifer Lopez picked?

The "Ripped" men are on the front of GQ or other aimed-at-metrosexual-men magazines. Articles of the same nature but aimed at women are in everything.
 
No one is denying the actions of the media on men too, but it's a fact that men do not have the same view on personal appreance as women on a whole scale. It's increasing but is no where near the same ammounts as women.


This is true, but it is still a point worth making as some people are oblivious to it. :]
 
No, that is not an average mans routine at all. Go into town on an evening, you will see all the clones (just like the women) who have spent quite a while on choosing the right clothes, sorting their face out and also sorting the hair.
Metrosexual isnt a fantasy term, it applies to a lot of men!

Magazines and papers.... how many mens mags are there now with ripped blokes on the front, generally with a tasty woman nearby?
How many lads mags show 'stunning' women who happen to be dating fit blokes? Most of them. You never see stunners with Vegas / Moyles sized men.
More and more women are taking notice of top sports stars, so are wanting that shape of man.

You might not be caught by the marketing, but many men are.

:)
 
I stopped buying them because of this reason. If I read a magazine I rip out all the ads and fashion pages as its just ridiculous.

BB x

Would that even leave a couple of pages and a front cover nowadays? I occasionally flick through such magazines when I'm in a waiting room or the like and that is all I see.

All this obsession with body image (or any obsession really by definition) cannot be healthy, looks do not equal health although to a certain degree they will reflect it.
 
No one is denying the actions of the media on men too, but it's a fact that men do not have the same view on personal appreance as women on a whole scale. It's increasing but is no where near the same ammounts as women.

I don't know about that.....I'd imagine it could well affect men as much as it does women, except men don't tend to be open or talk about it as much as a woman might.

I bet every man in this thread has at some point seen one of those muscle bound men that they seem to so love using in advertising aftershave in magazines, and felt depressed that they don't have that figure.
 
I don't know about that.....I'd imagine it could well affect men as much as it does women, except men don't tend to be open or talk about it as much as a woman might.

I bet every man in this thread has at some point seen one of those muscle bound men that they seem to so love using in advertising aftershave in magazines, and felt depressed that they don't have that figure.

Ahh yeah, forgot about the davidoff / CK type adverts, or even diet coke break man.
 
I bet every man in this thread has at some point seen one of those muscle bound men that they seem to so love using in advertising aftershave in magazines, and felt depressed that they don't have that figure.

Probably the reason I spend so much money on my appearance. £40 Haircut, £150 shoes, gym equipment, skincare products....
 
I don't know about that.....I'd imagine it could well affect men as much as it does women, except men don't tend to be open or talk about it as much as a woman might.

I bet every man in this thread has at some point seen one of those muscle bound men that they seem to so love using in advertising aftershave in magazines, and felt depressed that they don't have that figure.

Those men look at me and feel depressed tbh :p

I think the media has a lot to answer for. Combatting the size-zero culture with borderline-obese images isnt the way forward though (not talking about the OP here, just the general reaction).

Has anyone seen that ad on the TV for one of those plus-size catalogues? Most of the women featured in that advert are "larger than average" and are absolutely stunning. There was a Dove advert on a while back which also had some larger-than-average ladies, the majority of which were really attractive "despite" their size.

Attractiveness cannot be measured by dress size or scales. In my opinion, the woman in the OP isnt attractive, but it has little to do with her size.
 
Why? If she's going to post a largely nonsensical rant, she should expect some comeback.

I'm all for general discussion, but someone just shouting at the screen needs to take a step back and think for a minute.

Me posting largely nonsensical rant? *hmmmm* ;)

Do grow up.

*places mirror in front of platypus*

Don't complain as if it's a one way thing.

Sorry.. did I say it was? Or was I just referring to the general thread which is very much judging the attractiveness of females? *wonders*

We have the right to comment on how we think she looks because she's joined a competition to promote just that. Or are you unclear as to how the Miss-wherever competitions work?

Have you read the thread?

Have you read my post? I think not! Did I say you didn't have the right to comment? Oh let me go look.... Hmmm no no I didn't. In fact I actually said somewhere there we all have our own opinions and that I was happy some people had posted their own opinions but managed to refrain from being childish and posting idiotic insults.

Several people have questioned her validity as a role model because she's large. Size 16 may be the UK average, but that does not mean we should be celebrating it: ergo people have questioned her validity as a role model. Is that clear?

Yes mummy, very clear. I promise think such thoughts again, and will try and remain a size 0 like all the other pretty, beautiful models. They're much better role models definitely. *rollseyes*

I'd say you're being irrational but..

People will be childish every where. Your rather over the top ranting is also out of place.

Seriously. If you can't post in a sensible manner, you have no place criticising others.

Irritional... Yes, obviously I am. I'm such an idiot. I really shouldn't have bothered posting my feelings and how shocked I am at such ridiculous... oops... I mean thoughtful comments so many people are posting. How silly of me. How dare I criticise people. Of course, my bad, they should be free to **** off the fatty. I shouldn't be offended at all.

Hell I'll join in. She's so fat! In fact, she's so fat she can stand up and lie down and still be the same height! LOL. (nb I would probably hit it though because I can't actually manage to get anything else out there cos I'm a moron.)


I appreciate that you may of went through a tough time, but we're talking about a 'BEAUTY' contest here, the aim of this contest is to be judged, if your prepared to enter into a competition like this then you have to be prepared to take the rough with the smooth, do you think most of the people on here being critical would be the same if it was just some random on the street, I wouldn't, but in this case it's different, and also you can't blame your own insecurities on our opinions, you should stand and be proud of who you are no matter what people think of you, other wise your always living your life on the edge, your letting others peoples opinions dictate how you feel, you have to be stronger than that.

Yeh I know - I don't mind if people don't think she makes a good beauty contest model - everyone's entitled to their opinion after all and I think attractiveness is very much a personal taste :) Heh, I remember there being a tv show about a chap who LOVED hairy women! I was like "wow, crazy" but he loved it! Very unconventional but if he's happy then so we all should be.

So yeh, it's not peoples own opinions, it's the whole slagging her off thing that's awful.

I have fought very long to be a stronger, better person, which I think if you ask people who know me would say I am very confident and a happy person :) It's sad things like this can affect me, like so many other people (men included). I am proud of who I am and I know I am a much better person than others out there. Threads with comments in it like this one can make me realise that.

So she can have a Kit Kat.

I lolled so hard at that! :D
 
Quite ironic how some of the replies on her are from people who's GF's are actually, er, on the tubby size!! :p

O the irony of it all!!

O well, it's confirmed what I thought that most people on here are full of it! :D
 
I wonder what her BMI is, and whether a doctor would consider her physically healthy or not? If not, should she be chosen as physical representative and thus an "example" of the country in which we live? Great personality though.
 
why do people always counter the fat comments with 'better than being anorexic'?

Of course it is, but its not better than being healthily slim or slender. I'd much prefer a fitness model type that falls into neither extreme.


And as for the original post, personally I don't find her attractive in the least - which isn't the same as saying shes ugly, but for a beauty contest (leaving aside how offensive the concept may be) wouldn't you want someone, well, beautiful?
 
Wasn't Sophie Dahl supposed to be the model who broke the mould?

As far as I know, one stardom took over, her weight and size plummeted so what's to stop the same thing happening here?

They make a name for themselves for being different but in order to maintain that position they need to conform more and more to what is demanded in the mainstream which inevitably results in the person becoming like all the others within their field.
 
I wonder what her BMI is, and whether a doctor would consider her physically healthy or not? If not, should she be chosen as physical representative and thus an "example" of the country in which we live? Great personality though.

BMI isnt the best test in the world, however, her bf% is more than likely in the healthy range.
 
But who buys the majority of fashion magazines? Women :eek:, so in actual fact it's women who are to blame for perpetuating this vicious cycle*.

Oh and who buys the top shelves mags then?

Like BBx, I don't buy those mags anyway.

Focus and New Scientist ***.

wow just wow. Actually from what Pickers has posted before now, Pheebs is nigh on perfect. Maybe that's the problem with people these days.

It is the problem. People I know who are GORGEOUS hate their bodies. Some plonkers think they're attention seeking when they say "I'm ugly" or "I feel fat and horrid" ... but they're not. I know that as I can get like them and it's horrible. Small comments can really mess with peoples minds, let alone outlandish ones and then to add all these perfect perfect ladies into the scene with the media.. it's a disaster. To see my friends resenting themselves and paranoid when people have said things... and yet they're stunning.... it's terrible and very sad.

Thanking you muchly though for remembering pictures. I did think about posting one to prove that I'm not "fat" but I could foresee many comments and it just going wrong so yeh :)

Thanking Mister Freefaller too, my French secret Borgignoun lover ;)
 
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