Mistakes of this console generation

"core" buyers are by far the largest demographic of X360 owners

ROFL I do not know a single person with core however I know lots of people with Premiums and a few with elites.

The Premium was always the best value for money whereas the Core was the cheapest. There is no way in hell most people own Cores :rolleyes:
 
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People who had a dead or banned premium bought a new core.

Yeh that's some pretty hard fact there. I remember the 3 times I went and bought a core when my 360 died. Oh wait... no I just returned it. As for banned consoles. You telling me the majority of 360 owners have modded there console?
 
360:

:Should have all had HDD and used it in games as with the original Xbox, was a backwards step
:Live should be cheaper now, been £40 forever, more users should mean lower fees
:MS points system, fleecing people to normally buy 100 or 200 more points than they actually need
:Failure rate, although they acted, it was too late
:Live should be offering dedicated servers, even the option for gamers/clans to rent them at a good price, FM2 would be much better if they had dedi servers that could cope with 20 plus racers lag free

PS3:

: Rubbish controllers
: Lack of AAA exclusives
: Online is poor
: Too late to arrive and Sony were too arrogant

Only played the Wii for a few hours before got bored so can't really say much about it.
 
Yeh that's some pretty hard fact there. I remember the 3 times I went and bought a core when my 360 died. Oh wait... no I just returned it. As for banned consoles. You telling me the majority of 360 owners have modded there console?

Hang on mate, i'm not trying to have a dig. Maybe i should have said that some of the banned ones probably bought cores.
I have a 360. I modded my premium with a 70mm fan cut into the top to aid cooling, and it still died. This was before the 3 year warranty announced, so the cheapest way for me was to buy a core.
I'm sure lots of 360's failed before they gave the 3 years.
 
Spot on about the marketing point with the PS3. Sony took absolutely the wrong direction with this, they should fire the artistic (idiotic) cretin who came up with it.

What they should have done is differentiated their product by emphasising its media centre capabilities - the fact that it can play high definition movies in a world where a huge number of people have high definition displays without high definition sources - and is in fact, a bargain for £299. I wanted a games console and if it was based on games alone I would not have hesitated in buying an Xbox instead, but the very fact I got an extremely capable bluray player with the PS3 was enough to sway my decision. The Xbox on the other hand needs an add-on drive and is not as competent in playing HDDVDs as the PS3 is in playing Blu-rays.

And yes, the games atm on the PS3 do suck in comparison. The only ones ill be buying for now are guitar hero 3 and possibly rock band (if they sort the broken controller issue out)

Instead what we got were big waste of space posters proclaiming "this is living", or trailers in the cinema which were completely whacky yet wholesomely nonsensical. The only reference I ever saw in one of the ps3 ads to high def movie playback was one on the tube. It had a fallen tree trunk blocking the path of a toddler on a tricycle with a small "feel the full force of HD movies and games" written in the bottom left hand corner. Absolutely irrelevant. Completely pathetic.

In fact, most people would probably not have realised it was an advert for the PS3.

Im a student but I worked part time in the audio & TV section for a well known department store and the amount of times I suggested a PS3 as a bluray player only to be met with confused/bemused protests of "im not interested in gaming" was staggerring. In fact only one customer out of possibly a few hundred I served knew anything about the HD capabilities of the PS3.

Sony should fire their marketing executives. I would have done a better job for free.
 
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PS3 is overpriced and Fugly as hell, plus the controllers are naff and you can't use rechargables in them.

lol this is why threads like this always go so wrong

i like the look of ps3 , fits in more with my existing stuff unlike a whiteor matt black fugly box . i also prefer ps pads but thats just because im more used to them i guess. and why would we ever want to put rechargeable in ? its already got one in


saying that i just bought a xbox arcade today :p the reason why i didnt get a ps3 is my ps3 negative for the thread

no vga support on ps3 without an expensive adapter !!! get it sorted

have no screen at uni that i could plug the ps3 into :(
 
lol this is why threads like this always go so wrong

i like the look of ps3 , fits in more with my existing stuff unlike a whiteor matt black fugly box . i also prefer ps pads but thats just because im more used to them i guess. and why would we ever want to put rechargeable in ? its already got one in


saying that i just bought a xbox arcade today :p the reason why i didnt get a ps3 is my ps3 negative for the thread

no vga support on ps3 without an expensive adapter !!! get it sorted

have no screen at uni that i could plug the ps3 into :(
Ohh stop whining and buy yourself a decent HDTV :p

And yes, someone else in the thread a couple of pages ago mentioned replacing the batteries in the sixaxis. It is actually possible to remove the ps3 battery and put in another one. Although obviously not any random batteries.
 
and why would we ever want to put rechargeable in ? its already got one in

I think what people are getting at is that you cant put rechargeables in. It's great that it comes with one, but unlike the 360 pads, if it runs out then you have to plug in the cable. Plus I heard in this thread that the PS3 has to be on to charge it which is a bit of a downer.

I don't mind the look of the PS3. I would prefer it not to have such a shiny surface as it attracts dust and fingermarks like a ipod. Its also designed so you cant put anything on top of it. Also if its low to the floor its hard to access the usb ports.

Still I can't think of one console I have liked to look of. Why they cant make them like a standard DVD player I will never know.
 
I wish people would stop complaining about the PS3 price, it's now around the same as a premium/pro and miles cheaper than the elite...

I wouldn't say it was miles cheaper than the elite if you go by highstreet pricing. The rrp of the 40GB is £300 iirc which is identical to that of the 360 elite (this is roughly what I payed for mine as a bundel package). Of course whether it is better value is a different question entirely and is purely subjective.
 
It depends on what you want of course but, tbh I think the PS3 is by far the better deal. But that's just personal choice of course :)
 
I think what people are getting at is that you cant put rechargeables in. It's great that it comes with one, but unlike the 360 pads, if it runs out then you have to plug in the cable. Plus I heard in this thread that the PS3 has to be on to charge it which is a bit of a downer.

Last thing I heard about the lifespan of the batteries is Once it fails to keep charge, Sony will replace the sixaxis batteries.


Sony has a solution to concerns about the PlayStation 3 controller's rechargeable batteries. There is no way for users to access the controller's battery compartment to replace them if they eventually fail to hold a charge, so there was some concern about what would happen to such controllers.

According to GamesIndustry.biz, a Sony representative told the site that the electronics giant "will provide a service to replace wireless PS3 controllers 'when and if' their lithium batteries degrade." The representative added that it would be many years before the batteries degraded. There was no indication as to how much--if anything--Sony would charge for the service.

I found the quote :) I dunno how respectable gameindustry.biz is. But it's a possibility atleast
 
FrankJH, I think I can say with a lot of confidence that you're not among the brightest of people I've met.

Seeing as you have never met me and dont know anything at all about me thats a pretty stupid thing to say

Obviously some opinions are less worthy than others around here
 
Last thing I heard about the lifespan of the batteries is Once it fails to keep charge, Sony will replace the sixaxis batteries.
Within the year warranty though I assume? Anyway picture this. Your playing Resistance. Your battery runs out. You're at a mates and forgot to bring your usb cable. What do you do? Now someone smart here is going to say something like "I wouldn't forget my cable" or something like that. The thing is with a 360 controller I can steal some batteries out of a remote and bung them in.
 
Within the year warranty though I assume? Anyway picture this. Your playing Resistance. Your battery runs out. You're at a mates and forgot to bring your usb cable. What do you do? Now someone smart here is going to say something like "I wouldn't forget my cable" or something like that. The thing is with a 360 controller I can steal some batteries out of a remote and bung them in.

Or seeing as it uses a normal USB cable, the one from my digital camera and MP3 player are the same, you could just plug it into his PC ;)

That's what I do to charge mine.

Better still, if you know you're going to a mates to play some games, simply ensure you charged your controller first anyway ;)

Or, if you're at your mates playing R:FROM, so use HIS usb cable?

;)

V1N.
 
Like I said someone smart will come along...

I could go off a tangent and say well you took your PC round a mates who doesn't have a pc etc so no usb cable. Even though you charged it you were having a hardcore (insert hours here) game.

The fact is you have the option with other controllers. You don't with the SIXAXIS. That's all I'm getting at. Some people just cant seem to grasp it. If they came with a rechargeable battery and also had a compartment for it then it would obviously be the winner.
 
Like I said someone smart will come along...

I could go off a tangent and say well you took your PC round a mates who doesn't have a pc etc so no usb cable. Even though you charged it you were having a hardcore (insert hours here) game.

The fact is you have the option with other controllers. You don't with the SIXAXIS. That's all I'm getting at. Some people just cant seem to grasp it. If they came with a rechargeable battery and also had a compartment for it then it would obviously be the winner.

I wasn't really being serious, as I assumed that you weren't.
The battery lasts for ages, more than enough for a hardcore (insert hours there) sesh. The fact that they went out of their way to design the controller, for a specialised batterypack to go in there, which takes less room, weighs less and lasts longer than normal rechargable batteries can't really be put down as a bad point.

The fact that when they do go down you need to send it back could be considered a bad thing, but who knows, if they last long enough, maybe they'll end up replacing all the Sixaxis with DS3s, then that would be a bonus.
Speaking of which, I must say, I've noticed the DS3 seems to charge a lot quicker than the Sixaxis too, or am I just imagining it?

V1N.

EDIT: You could say the same of mobile phones. You're around a mates, the battery goes flat... damn, but you can't put normal AA batteries in there! I think the fact they allow it to be charged from any USB source is a big bonus. Out of interest, can you charge the PS3 controller from an Xbox360?
 
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