Monaco Grand Prix 2011, Monte-Carlo - Race 6/19

Team lotus are happy that they are still called team lotus.
Renault are happy that they can call themselves lotus as much as they want and everyone else still calls them renault.
 
Tweaker said:
This is so stupid, they will the commentators to say, here comes the team lotus car with the current Renault just being called the Lotus. I dont understand why both are so happy, they have wasted millions of pounds.
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Team Lotus will be referred to as Lotus
Lotus-RenaultGP will be referred to as Renault. You don't call the McLaren the Vodafone..
 
Skeeter said:
Because its the 'cool' thing to do to hate Hamilton. Just look at this forum.
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LOOK AT ME I'VE GOT A LEWIS T-SHIRT AND EVERYTHING!!

Ok, maybe I don't, but if some people here don't like him, then that's their choice and I'm one of them. Doesn't like it when everything doesn't go perfectly for him and cries that it's someone else's fault. Admittedly last season he seemed to have got a bit better at that, but once he starts getting beaten all the time..
 
So, from what I gather, the arguments were:

Group Lotus trying to stop Team Lotus using the name 'Lotus' in their name in F1 - Team Lotus win

Group Lotus trying to stop Team Lotus using the whole 'Team Lotus' name in F1 - Team Lotus win

Team Lotus trying to stop Group Lotus using the 'Lotus' name as part of their name (Lotus Renault) in F1 - Group Lotus win

Team Lotus trying to stop Group Lotus using the black and gold colours in F1 - Group Lotus win (I wasn't even aware this was being contested, its just colours...?)

So to put it simply... the judge has deemed the situation should stay exactly as it is now. Team Lotus race as Team Lotus, and Lotus Renault race as Lotus Renault in black and gold. The only change from the status quo is that Team Lotus must pay damages to Group Lotus for not upholding the 5 year deal to race as Lotus Racing that they agreed last year, which was pretty much a known conclusion for that anyway.

Seems common sence prevailed. I can still see Group Lotus tryign to be ***** about it and trying to force there way into rebranding the Lotus Renalt team Lotus, and then force Team Lotus out (as they have stated on their website), but I hope they fail. They are sponsors, nothing more. Although I think Bahar is on a mission to bankrupt Lotus Cars anyway, so I doubt they will be able to afford their F1 sponsorship campaign much longer anyway.
 
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Skeeter said:
So to put it simply... the judge has deemed the situation should stay exactly as it is now. Team Lotus race as Team Lotus, and Lotus Renault race as Lotus Renault in black and gold. The only change from the status quo is that Team Lotus must pay damages to Group Lotus for not upholding the 5 year deal to race as Lotus Racing that they agreed last year, which was pretty much a known conclusion for that anyway.
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Actually, it was Group that cancelled the deal.
As soon as Bahar got the boss job.

Skeeter said:
Seems common sence prevailed. I can still see Group Lotus tryign to be ***** about it and trying to force there way into rebranding the Lotus Renalt team Lotus, and then force Team Lotus out (as they have stated on their website), but I hope they fail. They are sponsors, nothing more. Although I think Bahar is on a mission to bankrupt Lotus Cars anyway, so I doubt they will be able to afford their F1 sponsorship campaign much longer anyway.
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Group Lotus are appealing the decision. Strange that, they claim that they won, but are appealing. Hmmm... Says LOSERS to me. ;)
 
Skeeter said:
So, from what I gather, the arguments were:

Group Lotus trying to stop Team Lotus using the name 'Lotus' in their name in F1 - Team Lotus win

Group Lotus trying to stop Team Lotus using the whole 'Team Lotus' name in F1 - Team Lotus win

Team Lotus trying to stop Group Lotus using the 'Lotus' name as part of their name (Lotus Renault) in F1 - Group Lotus win

Team Lotus trying to stop Group Lotus using the black and gold colours in F1 - Group Lotus win (I wasn't even aware this was being contested, its just colours...?)

So to put it simply... the judge has deemed the situation should stay exactly as it is now. Team Lotus race as Team Lotus, and Lotus Renault race as Lotus Renault in black and gold. The only change from the status quo is that Team Lotus must pay damages to Group Lotus for not upholding the 5 year deal to race as Lotus Racing that they agreed last year, which was pretty much a known conclusion for that anyway.

Seems common sence prevailed. I can still see Group Lotus tryign to be ***** about it and trying to force there way into rebranding the Lotus Renalt team Lotus, and then force Team Lotus out (as they have stated on their website), but I hope they fail. They are sponsors, nothing more. Although I think Bahar is on a mission to bankrupt Lotus Cars anyway, so I doubt they will be able to afford their F1 sponsorship campaign much longer anyway.
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Most interesting thing I've found so far in the judgement.

Team Lotus are the only ones able to use Lotus as their chassis manufacturer. Lotus Renault, remains a Renault. :D
 
I'm just happy that my best qually time on F1 2010 is smack bang on the time Fernando Alonso posted for FP2 :)

Nex Stefano will be calling me and I test my Italian.
 
Ok, I know the news source is GMM who are, traditionally, as useful as a condom machine in the vatican, but this made me laugh... a lot.

http://www.motorsport.com/#/F1/article/?id=405783

So next year would could have a Renault chassis, owned by Genii, sponsored by Lotus and Lada, with a Cosworth engine in the back of it. :D

Lotus Lada Genii Renault Cosworth. Thats got to annoy the former Renault F1 team, a Renault car without a Renaultsport engine.
 
It is kind of win win for Renault car company, they still have a car with Renault on next year, plus potentially another team sporting their engine.

I think we are about to see Lotus Renault fall down the grid as the others have the money to update cars.
 
pingwing said:
How mental is that!!! Shame about Kubica being out sort of ruing the team but Cossworth engines would be a funny end to it...
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It's weird if it does happen. I suspect that if it does, Group Lotus will be out the door like a shot.

Given some of the other things in the judgement today, I can't see how GL can call it a win at all.
 
Tweaker said:
It is kind of win win for Renault car company, they still have a car with Renault on next year, plus potentially another team sporting their engine.

I think we are about to see Lotus Renault fall down the grid as the others have the money to update cars.
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No F1 car should sound the way they do - for that reason alone they deserve to go to the back of the grid!
 
Narain Karthikeyan was outside the 107% time from Q1 (1’21.982) set on soft tyres. If his FP2 time was set on super-softs, it does not bode well for his chances of qualifying
Giedo van de Garde, Sam Bird and Jules Bianchi were all faster than Karthikeyan in the GP2 qualifying session held after second practice
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Seriously lol.
 
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