Poll: Monaco Grand Prix 2021, Monte Carlo - Race 5/23
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Caporegime
Since 2014, Mercedes have won 4 out of 7 races at Monaco. That's poor by their extraordinary standards, but the truth is that they've still been extremely strong at Monaco, and their record stands along other tracks such as Hungary, Brazil and Mexico.
I don't disagree that they're not as strong as elsewhere, but I think stories of Mercedes being completely unsuited or it being a bogey track are wide of the mark.
Soldato
Mercedes weren't so poor a Monaco though, Lewis was. Bottas had a reasonable pace.
Yes, I think it's because we have an incredibly high standard for Mercedes, we judge them differently and some people make out they are about to crash and burn in the championship simply because they have one weekend where they do not dominate.
However, when you've got Mercedes themselves saying they seem to have problems at Monaco they don't have elsewhere and that they don't completely understand, there's obviously something there. That outstanding ability to maintain their tyres at most other tracks works against them on a very slow track where the tyres never get warm enough to be in the window. It's still better to build a car that is outstanding at all the other tracks and somewhat problematic at one.
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Some teams have nuts that can be cracked down the middle with the whack of a hammer and chock... Mercedes do not
Soldato
They probably will for the next race 
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I just hope they bring Serena Williams back to interrupt the race winner's interview with weird questions.
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Not a terrible race to watch on the Youtube round up. I feel for anyone watching it live or in person though.
100% true, funnily enough this was in the youtube 6 minute round up
100% true, funnily enough this was in the youtube 6 minute round up
Soldato
""Valtteri stopped a little too early," Wolff told Auto Motor und Sport"
""This meant that the mechanic had to apply the impact wrench at an angle. The awkward angle damaged the wheel nut and we couldn't bring it down."
https://racingnews365.com/wolff-partly-blames-bottas-for-monaco-pitstop-debacle
I call BS on that.
And wolff said they don't have a blame culture.
""This meant that the mechanic had to apply the impact wrench at an angle. The awkward angle damaged the wheel nut and we couldn't bring it down."
https://racingnews365.com/wolff-partly-blames-bottas-for-monaco-pitstop-debacle
I call BS on that.
And wolff said they don't have a blame culture.
Soldato
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Ditto.
The guns are on flexible hoses and whilst there isn't miles of excess hose there's enough to deal with someone being slightly off their marks.
Caporegime
Honestly, the idea that Wolff was blaming Bottas and not just trying to explain the detail of how it went wrong seems to be an invention of the English speaking press, it isn't there in the German original.
Man of Honour
I think thats the point of it these days; despite the poor racing it remains the most glamorous and high profile event and for that reason its still well up on a drivers "want to win" list; but they are needing to try and make some tweaks; at least one over-taking place would be nice!!!
Don
Certainly from the Channel 4 highlights with DC and MW, although it isn't a good "race", it's still a huge challenge for the driver - qualifying is obviously a challenge with how much can a driver push the limits without the track biting them, but race day is a mental endurance event - 78 laps of a short circuit, but 1 mistake and it's all over.
Yeah this is completely unfair.
With this weekend and last.. . He's gone. I expect he knew before last race.
Holding up Hamilton and now this? Writing is on the wall.
Bit pathetic this from toto.
Even if he did stop a little off. The mechanics have been able to handle this.
He was in for a great result too. Feel. For him on this one.
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I know they say that - but is it? No one crashed and you'd really think that someone would. Maybe they are all really just driving well within themselves, because they all know there is no point chasing the car in front of you and you may as well take it easy on your tyres.
I can see Qualifying really matters and takes some precision though.
They do need to find some way of making at least one real passing place, it just gets worse every year.
That’s more down to the cars getting bigger and wider as the years have gone by. Next seasons cars are expected to be shorter, although not by much.
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If you don't include Hamilton's fastest lap set on new tyres on lap 69, the fastest race lap (Tsunoda's 1’14.037) was 4s slower than the pole position time (1:10.346).
Looking at the onboard footage most cars were coasting around from the beginning because they knew no one could pull an overtake. Watching Hamilton yo-yo up behind Gasly showed how much time he had in hand, if they pushed. Sad times.
Caporegime
Interesting close-up of Bottas's wheel nut gettin' reckt
Since the gun was clearly in place before it was fired, I can't see any support for Wolff's comment that being out-of-alignment because the car didn't hit its marks contributed to the incident.
Since the gun was clearly in place before it was fired, I can't see any support for Wolff's comment that being out-of-alignment because the car didn't hit its marks contributed to the incident.
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