Exactly, you’ve picked up the subtle point that choosing 10% + 2 as your cruise speed assumes this is a universal rule. The truth is it’s all very nuanced.
Most borderline NIP ever?
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Exactly, you’ve picked up the subtle point that choosing 10% + 2 as your cruise speed assumes this is a universal rule. The truth is it’s all very nuanced.
Not that it is likely to make any difference in the real world as all they want is the course cash, but is it worth checking if they have a photo of the driver at the time so the right one of you goes on the course?
Feels like getting the photo will be hassle. Doesn't help that the location they give is like, a serial number of a bridge, and "M5". Great. I have extensive knowledge of bridge serial numbers and was on the M5 from it's northernmost point to south of Bristol, so that is really helpful
Have "confessed" and await judgement.
Doesn't help that the location they give is like, a serial number of a bridge, and "M5". Great. I have extensive knowledge of bridge serial numbers and was on the M5 from it's northernmost point to south of Bristol, so that is really helpful
Is it a number like 122.3?
Do you know what, you're right and I didn't spot that. I'll blame being tired.
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Suck it up big boy 
Guidelines rather than discretionary.
Although "Every man in his dog will tell you about Dave down the pub who got a ticket for 32 in a 30" - there is zero proof out there that anyone has ever got a NIP for less than the 10%+2
On the old Pepipoo forums there was an open offer, which I think 10 people were subscribed to, who would each donate £10 to a charity of your choice if you came with a NIP for less than this. Those forums died without that offer ever being claimed.
It's amazing - everyone knows someone it has happened to. In fact, ask on these forums and you'd find loads of people who received one, but never a picture taken.
On Pepipoo certainly, all the 31, 32 & 33 NIP's became 35+ on further investigation. The low 40's ones all suddenly became 46+
It's an odd one. When people get caught speeding, the automatic response seems to be to blame anyone but yourself. So the story of 32/33 in a 30, 42/43 in a 40 and "Bloody police - have they nothing better to do" seems to make people feel better than 35 in a 30, 46 in a 40 and it was all my own fault.
Nope!!
I don't know about blame anyone else. In my case I'm genuinely surprised I was clocked at that speed, as I've said cruise control at 76 is normal for me and I assumed speedo over read, although others have suggested model 3 uses GPS for speedo.
I do feel that 76 (or indeed 79) on a relatively clear motorway is harmless and victimless, and I do dislike the fact that the police have no capacity to investigate burglaries, do nothing about shoplifters and train fare dodgers, let over half of people caught with class a drugs off with a warning, yet come down on speeding motorists like a ton of bricks, offering very little warning or leeway, but I guess that's mostly as speeding is a strict liability offense, motorists have registration plates in big bold letters, and pay them £100 a time.
I - or maybe my wife, not 100% sure - did the thing, sure. I don't dispute that. Don't think that precludes me having a dim view of police priorities.
The fact is that with cruise control set to 76 I often end up pulling over to let others past. There are far worse crimes about. Speed limits are, in general, lower than they should be on motorways. Enforcement is so patchy and speeding so rampant that it's more of an annoyance than a deterrent.
It is, apparently the priority the government have chosen to structure the system to point the police at. I'd take far more issue with 35 in a 30 than 79 in a 70 myself.
I'll let you know how my pointless zoom course goes.
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Wheel sensors for speedo - but some traffic aware cruise/pilot modes use GPS speed assistance for some reason though I can't find for certain if it is used in this country or not - daftly it seems to be a core part of the functionality for autopilot and so uses it over the wheel sensors weirdly.
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Well, I've since set the default speed down 1% and it does 75 on the motorway
The capacity of any individual force to investigate burglaries or deal with high volumes of low-level thefts isn't one that's particularly influenced by having a member of police staff in a (usually marked) van with speed enforcement equipment, what does are the millions of hours spent by police dealing with mental health related calls, missing persons calls, vulnerable youths etc because other agencies and services have been cut to the bone, and what's left know that the police can't say no to dealing with it. The police aren't incentivised to issue fines; the average cop doesn't get up in the morning looking forward to going out there and raise money for the Treasury.
There were nearly 30,000 people killed or seriously injured on British roads last year, speed is regularly a factor. There are fewer roads policing officers now than there were 20 years ago, they're often single crewed or shared with neighbouring forces due to lack of resources. Speed limits might be too low for some roads given the capabilities of modern vehicles, but they're realistically never going up until vehicles are fully autonomous, and the capabilities of the average driver anecdotally seem to be getting worse.
Be grateful you're getting the course option at all; it's entirely discretionary and up here north of the border you'd simply get points.
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Limit 70, gets a ticket having broken the limit, shocked motors post. We all know the risk if we go over.
Fining a small minority of speeding drivers to try to influence a proportion of accidents that are caused by speed is like trying to use a child's bucket to stop a flood.
It would be like penalising all drivers in Liverpool because a tiny proportion of them have driven their car into a crowd.
The speeding awareness courses are actually the problem, whilst individually we are obviously strongly incentivised to take it rather than points, the money from this is kept by the force or "safety camera partnership".
Name me another criminal offence where the police can use their discretion to not prosecute but only if you give them a £100 bung.
Throw the book at people that cause accidents. Motorways are 4% of accidents and most of them are due to inattentive driving or driving whilst tired, not doing 79. The motorway is no safer thanks to camera vans.
Wives are well known to be happy to have been sent on a speed awareness course when their husband could have taken the fall for them.
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