MOTOGP 2015

this_is_gav · 27 Oct 2015 at 11:31

Banny said:
So it's in the spirit of the sport for another rider to knowingly scupper someone's else's championship

So long as it's not riding unfairly, though I have to admit this is probably the first time I've seen it in top-line motorsport where there's no contracted party (team, supporting team, etc) involved.

Marques did nothing wrong. He wasn't racing dangerously, he wasn't swerving or blocking. Even the commentators and fans were vocal in how great it was. Each pass by both he and Rossi was clean, up until the deciding one. In hindsight I didn't like what Marques was doing and it doesn't sit easy with me, but there wasn't anything wrong about it.

I read some comments before I watched the race, but my jaw still dropped dropped when I saw it. I wanted Rossi to win this season so much, but now if he somehow pulls it off it will be tainted.

I hope there's been an awful lot more happening behind the scenes than we've seen to cause Rossi to do this. Surely there has to have been, and perhaps race control knew about it so he wasn't disqualified or banned, as from the outside either or even both could be justified.

Either way it's such a shame.

teejay73 · 27 Oct 2015 at 11:48

deuse said:
It's legal for a rider to force another rider wide. MM was not off track when he went down.

They was both at fault so in my opinion no one should have a penalty.

Quite true. Had MM not gone down it would be water under the bridge by now. MM went down through his action, Rossi made that possible. Both are at fault, but there was no intention to make MM fall, from VR's point of view.

Spacedeck · 27 Oct 2015 at 12:05

bloodiedathame said:
It's about £90 for the season on MotoGP.com, that's what I do. No off season price though.

No off season price? so when the subscription becomes auto renewed, does that not buy access until the season starts?

bloodiedathame · 27 Oct 2015 at 12:49

Spacedeck said:
No off season price? so when the subscription becomes auto renewed, does that not buy access until the season starts?

Yes, it does. What I meant is there was no special price to access content off season.

bloodiedathame · 27 Oct 2015 at 12:53

Did Cal get any points? http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/26/dovizioso-he-caused-me-a-lot-of-damage/188551

thedoc46 · 27 Oct 2015 at 14:37

So Lin Jarvis and Team Yamaha are not very happy with WhoreGay and his comments at the post press conference, demanding disqualification and antics on the podium (thumbs down when Rossi got his trophy and stormed off with the strop)

They're even talking about ending his contract early.

It's in Portuguese but apparently not a site for stirring BS.

thedoc46 · 27 Oct 2015 at 14:41

I'm a Yamaha fanboy, not afraid to admit it, so it'll be nice to see the backend (pardon the pun, given this is WhoreGay) we're talking about. lol to get rid of him.

Anyone know if Zarco has resigned yet? So much talent coming up the field..

Spacedeck · 27 Oct 2015 at 14:41

bloodiedathame said:
Yes, it does. What I meant is there was no special price to access content off season.

Ah okay. Last question

. What will be the renewal price? The same as last year? I think last year was £145 for multi-room (only choice available to UK). The year before wasn't it cheaper?

Darryl_1983 · 27 Oct 2015 at 14:55

I can't see Yamaha getting rid of Lorenzo, Rossi is on his last legs now being 36 years old. Any of the moto2 riders are going to be a risk until proven in motogp. So if they dumped Lorenzo now for a rookie, they could then lose Rossi in a years time or so, running the risk of not having a rider capable of winning the title.

Lorenzo is the future for Yamaha for the next few years at least. Rossi is only going to get slower, and losing Lorenzo and the data he apparently is sharing with Rossi will have a major impact of the team.

Plus they wouldn't want Lorenzo to end up on another works bike, as he'd be capable of beating them every week.

bloodiedathame · 27 Oct 2015 at 15:21

Spacedeck said:
Ah okay. Last question . What will be the renewal price? The same as last year? I think last year was £145 for multi-room (only choice available to UK). The year before wasn't it cheaper?

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No multiroom thingy for me. Cheaper than I thought too.

deuse · 27 Oct 2015 at 15:49

The last race is going to be epic. Will Lorenzo just coast round to win the champ?
Will other riders get in the way of Rossi moving up?

UTmaniac · 27 Oct 2015 at 15:53

There will be a secret pact, excluding Lorenzo and Marquez, where everyone else will pause at the race start to let Rossi through to third.

teejay73 · 27 Oct 2015 at 15:54

thedoc46 said:
So Lin Jarvis and Team Yamaha are not very happy with WhoreGay and his comments at the post press conference, demanding disqualification and antics on the podium (thumbs down when Rossi got his trophy and stormed off with the strop)

They're even talking about ending his contract early.

It's in Portuguese but apparently not a site for stirring BS.

If there were any truth in that, and it came to fruition. I would love to see Maverick Vinales at Yamaha. His riding would suit the more refined Yamaha M1 as well. For me, he is the one that could take the fight to MM & co. Even more so if they kept VR on as a mentor.

deuse · 27 Oct 2015 at 15:57

teejay73 said:
If there were any truth in that, and it came to fruition. I would love to see Maverick Vinales at Yamaha. His riding would suit the more refined Yamaha M1 as well. For me, he is the one that could take the fight to MM & co. Even more so if they kept VR on as a mentor.

I'd like D Kent to have the ride

bloodiedathame · 27 Oct 2015 at 15:58

I think Rossi should quit racing. If he truly feels hard done by, then he would.

"Ok Dorna, now you av MotoGP withouta mee, good luck!"

Fact is, and he knows it, that 80% of the people watching, only watch for him.

thedoc46 · 27 Oct 2015 at 16:03

teejay73 said:
If there were any truth in that, and it came to fruition. I would love to see Maverick Vinales at Yamaha. His riding would suit the more refined Yamaha M1 as well. For me, he is the one that could take the fight to MM & co. Even more so if they kept VR on as a mentor.

Yes I thought that too... Vinales would be a perfect match...

Yamaha prefer Rossi to WhoreGay as he sells them a lot more motorcycles. So they'll side with Rossi over this. It's the reason they're in this championship after all. Bottom dollar !!!

So for WhoreGay to throw him and Yamaha under the bus, i can see completely why his contract is now on the line ! Shoulda just kept his mouth shut and not use it as an opportunity to try and worm his way to the title.

MM93 has been called out as a dirty not to be trusted competitor. He'll probably lose half his fanbase as a result of this.. And well VR has shown he can buckle under pressure. He is Italian after all, and lets be honest here, Italians arn't exactly known for not being temperamental. He may lose a small percentage of fans, but with the mass exodus from JL and MM, they'll probably go to him or Pedrosa anyway... Or the new contender who'll take WhoreGay's ride next yr (one can only hope)

deuse · 27 Oct 2015 at 16:13

bloodiedathame said:
I think Rossi should quit racing. If he truly feels hard done by, then he would.

If every rider does what you said then there would be a empty track every race.
I like every rider in Moto they're all great riders.

bloodiedathame · 27 Oct 2015 at 16:25

deuse said:
If every rider does what you said then there would be a empty track every race.
I like every rider in Moto they're all great riders.

It's different when it's a Championship contender at the end of the season. Especially when it's someone who you could argue makes Dorna most of it's dollar.

Darryl_1983 · 27 Oct 2015 at 16:32

UTmaniac said:
There will be a secret pact, excluding Lorenzo and Marquez, where everyone else will pause at the race start to let Rossi through to third.

If lorenzo wins, Third wouldn't be enough for Rossi to win the championship, he'd lose by 2 points.

Rossi needs to hope that the Honda's finish 1st and 2nd in Valencia with Lorenzo no higher than 3rd. That way i believe he can finish 6th and win by 1 point.

If Lorenzo finishes 2nd, then Rossi will need to finish 3rd, which will be too much. I assume if level points it then goes to race wins? as 4th for Rossi would leave them level on points, Rossi with 4 wins, Lorenzo with 6 wins

Terminal_Boy · 27 Oct 2015 at 16:34

mctiny said:
The more I see footage of the "accident" the more I'm sure that Rossi only intended to push Marquez away and not down, it's clear that Marquez leans on Rossi, almost as if he loses the front of the Honda a little.

It's almost as though Marquez dives - deliberately throwing the bike down, rather than saving it. If he sat up he probably could have saved it.

Watch the clip of that incident that starts about 10 seconds earlier and you'll see Rossi look over at Marquez twice while changing his bike's line in the corner to run wide and squeeze Marquez off the track.

Rossi would have been black flagged for that and sent packing at even the lowliest club meeting in the UK.