Motorsport Off Topic Thread

MarcLister · 11 Sep 2013 at 21:05

Cavallino said:
Has there been instances in the past where drivers left a team and then come back to that team later on in their career? Im sure there has but cannot recall.

dannyjo22 said:
Mansell and Alonso spring to mind instantly.

Gerhard Berger was last Ferrari driver to re-sign for Ferrari.

Raikkonen is the first driver to return to Ferrari after a previous spell since Austrian Gerhard Berger re-joined them in 1993 after leaving them at the end of 1989 to join McLaren.

from http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24051470

413x · 11 Sep 2013 at 21:45

it would be funny if renault produce a mega engine next year and lotus beat ferrari..thats my hope

Skeeter · 11 Sep 2013 at 22:17

If that's the case RBR will be long gone.

deuse · 12 Sep 2013 at 07:31

al4x said:
it would be funny if renault produce a mega engine next year and lotus beat ferrari..thats my hope

Lotus have no engine deal for 2014 yet most likely it will be Renault.

Rybo89 · 12 Sep 2013 at 08:23

Ain't Renault in massive debt? Needing the season to end for there championship cut or how ever it works.

They need to hurry up and get hulk.

Someone mentioned Di Resta, seriously why? He is utter carp compared to most of them. Lucky to have a seat at Force India.

Edit: Kimi maybe left because they could not afford him, we all know how Kimi and his management like to line their pockets.

Kevin Clark · 12 Sep 2013 at 10:34

Rybo89 said:
Someone mentioned Di Resta, seriously why? He is utter carp compared to most of them. Lucky to have a seat at Force India.

Glad it's not just me on that one.
I really can't see the fuss about him. He just seems to be a plodder making up the numbers.

MagicBoy · 12 Sep 2013 at 11:05

Former F3 and DTM champion, and McLaren test driver.

Beat Vettel to the F3 title in the same team. So yep, he's carp. :rolleyes:

Rybo89 · 12 Sep 2013 at 11:49

Did he whinge his way through them aswell?

He has brought nothing special to F1, yet. Had the odd good race due to top drivers falling out the race, thats about it.

Im just not a fan of him in any way.

Van De Garde would be next young driver pick after Hulk.

MagicBoy · 12 Sep 2013 at 11:52

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion of his character. The facts prove he's not crap or a plodder.

Skyboat · 12 Sep 2013 at 12:06

He made quite a rookie mistake in the last race though.

413x · 12 Sep 2013 at 12:51

deuse said:
Lotus have no engine deal for 2014 yet most likely it will be Renault.

Didn't realise that. Is money really that bad there?

Skeeter · 12 Sep 2013 at 13:06

Rybo89 said:
He has brought nothing special to F1

He brings ~£10m of free engines.

al4x said:
Didn't realise that. Is money really that bad there?

They are called Lotus, but don't get a single penny from Lotus Cars. Genii Capital have had to fill in the void left by Lotus bailing, so money is certainly tight. The lack of an engine deal yet is because the Renault engine looks to be £lolwtf expensive, so I imagine they are trying to broker a better deal.

MagicBoy · 12 Sep 2013 at 13:09

Skyboat said:
He made quite a rookie mistake in the last race though.

So did Vettel at Spa 2010. Your point?

Skyboat · 12 Sep 2013 at 13:32

Let's all come back in 3 years and argue then shall we.

PinkFloyd · 12 Sep 2013 at 13:33

Kimi also managed to go into the back of someone. Not to mention how many times Hamilton and Massa have done similar. I'm sure if you dig around you'll find examples of Alonso making silly mistakes too, I just can't think of one!

I'd love to see Paul in a better car

Danthus · 12 Sep 2013 at 14:42

Kevin Clark said:
Glad it's not just me on that one.
I really can't see the fuss about him. He just seems to be a plodder making up the numbers.

I am no Di Resta fan, he strikes me as the sort of driver that can drive to a target but not exceed it, i don't think he can get that bit extra out of a car like Alonso, Raikonnen and Hamilton can.

deuse · 12 Sep 2013 at 15:15

OldCoals said:
I am no Di Resta fan, he strikes me as the sort of driver that can drive to a target but not exceed it, i don't think he can get that bit extra out of a car like Alonso, Raikonnen and Hamilton can.

They said the same about Alonso. You do know how long it took him to get a decent car?

Di Resta needs the team to sort out their tire issues as before the new tires they was doing great.

JRS · 12 Sep 2013 at 15:34

deuse said:
They said the same about Alonso.

When??? His first season with Minardi, he was praised to the hills for driving it far quicker than it had any right to go. About the only season where he didn't really achieve or exceed expectations was '04, after a 2003 season of mahoosive over-achievement.

deuse said:
You do know how long it took him to get a decent car?

Alonso? Second season that he drove, he had a race-winning car (Hungary).

deuse · 12 Sep 2013 at 15:46

JRS said:
When??? His first season with Minardi, he was praised to the hills for driving it far quicker than it had any right to go. About the only season where he didn't really achieve or exceed expectations was '04, after a 2003 season of mahoosive over-achievement.

Alonso? Second season that he drove, he had a race-winning car (Hungary).

In F3 he just about made the grade, Webber beat him in F3 I think he was lucky to get out of F3 so soon.
2005-2006 was his race winning car.

The rest looks like I was wrong

Skeeter · 12 Sep 2013 at 15:49

deuse said:
They said the same about Alonso. You do know how long it took him to get a decent car?

1 season/17 races.