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I hope Di Resta gets a chance with a better team than FI, I don't think he is the best of the best but I remember a discussion of him coming up on here last year (think it was about mid season) and he was equalling Hulkenberg. I can't remember (and cba to look them up) how it ended last season but I think he is one of the better drivers in F1 today. Saying that though, I wouldn't like to see him in Lotus. The amount of money trouble they are having it seems inevitable that they will slide back down the grid to become just another mid grid team.

Shame really with Merc and Lotus looking up last year thought we might have battles for the lead between 5 teams (Ferrari, RBR, McLaren, Lotus and Merc) but McLaren are already out of it and seems Lotus is falling behind.
 
Skeeter said:
1 season/17 races.
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Having a laugh ant ya? His first season he finished 23rd he was a test driver in his second season 2002
2003 he come 6th and in 2004 he came 4th it wasn't till 2005 he had a decent race\WDC winning car.

Where you get the 1 season from?
 
Skeeter said:
Your definition of a 'decent car' seems to be the WDC's car?
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So you had nothing so used JRS as backup lmfao. Challenging for the WDC is a ok car.
Oh and the car he had in Hungary he was in his 3rd season not first or second...
 
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MagicBoy said:
Former F3 and DTM champion, and McLaren test driver.

Beat Vettel to the F3 title in the same team. So yep, he's carp. :rolleyes:
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McLaren test driver - counts for nothing.
Former F3/DTM champ - counts for nothing - F1 is a different animal.
Beat Vettel at F3 - how long ago was this? Was Vettel 15 yrs old or something because Vettel was around 18 yrs old when he won his first F1 race. In any case, Vettel has moved on since and has been rated in the BBC list as one of the top 10 drivers of all time. I doubt Di Resta would make the top 100!

I'm not saying he is crap - far from it.
He is decent.
But is he any more special than the other midfield drivers - I'm not sure.
 
deuse said:
They said the same about Alonso. You do know how long it took him to get a decent car?
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Are you seriously comparing Alonso to Di Resta?
The driver who is rated by many as the best, vs Di Resta, who is rated as err...

And don't forget, teams have huge amounts of stats on each driver they employ (before they employ them) - much more info than we have.

The reason why Di Resta hasnt been employed by a top team yet, is because he just hasnt made the grade. Even Maldonado has put in a race winning performance - something which Di Resta has never done.
 
deuse said:
They said the same about Alonso. You do know how long it took him to get a decent car?
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He won a race in his 2nd season.

The problem for di Resta is that he's on par with Sutil, and a fading Fisichella made Sutil equally average. Sutil too was capable of the odd good performance (but threw most of them away), yet he was only ever fleetingly spoken of as a 2nd driver at a decent team.

At this point I struggle to see any way in which di Resta will ever get into a car capable of winning (barring a Stewart Nurburgring 1999 level of fluke*). DTM is all well and good, but I think he's found his level in F1 and will struggle to eclipse it.


*The 1999 Stewart was a cracking car, though average performances by the top teams made it look better than it was, and the Nurburgring race they run was probably one of their worst performances that year... but the drivers kept it pointing in the right direction. Awesome race.
 
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sunama said:
McLaren test driver - counts for nothing.
Former F3/DTM champ - counts for nothing - F1 is a different animal.
Beat Vettel at F3 - how long ago was this? Was Vettel 15 yrs old or something because Vettel was around 18 yrs old when he won his first F1 race. In any case, Vettel has moved on since and has been rated in the BBC list as one of the top 10 drivers of all time. I doubt Di Resta would make the top 100!

I'm not saying he is crap - far from it.
He is decent.
But is he any more special than the other midfield drivers - I'm not sure.
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F3 counts for nothing my ****. It's been one of the recognised steps to F1 for over thirty years, followed by F3000/GP2. It was 2006 IIRC, the year after Lewis Hamilton. He impressed Mercedes enough to get a works drives in DTM and assisted into F1 via a Merc satellite team.

There's only been couple of F1 world champions who missed F3 off the top of my head. Alonso went via the Formula Nissan (now Renault World Series route), Raikkonen missed about 3 steps and caused a ****storm in the process.
 
this_is_gav said:
*The 1999 Stewart was a cracking car, though average performances by the top teams made it look better than it was, and the Nurburgring race they run was probably one of their worst performances that year... but the drivers kept it pointing in the right direction.
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Good enough for 4th in the Constructor championship. Certainly more reliable than the previous two years' efforts.
 
deuse said:
So you had nothing so used JRS as backup lmfao. Challenging for the WDC is a ok car.
Oh and the car he had in Hungary he was in his 3rd season not first or second...
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JRS posted all that needed to be said, why would I post the same thing rather than just refer you to JRSs post?

The fact you agreed with JRS but then went after me for saying the same thing says all it needs to tbh. I could post that F1 cars have 4 wheels and you would argue I was wrong.

(note: 'have', not 'had', before the inevitable "lol P34" reply)
 
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Skeeter said:
I could post that F1 cars have 4 wheels and you would argue I was wrong.
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Ah, you ninja'd before I could get the pic rehosted!
 
The P34 is absolutely epic. I'd love the 1:10th scale diecast model of it, but its £lol.

I read an interesting story about the Williams 6 wheeler. They found that in the rain they could run wet tyres on the front of the 2 rear axles, and slicks on the rear most of them, as the front tyres cleared enough water so that the rears were being fed with a clear piece of tarmac without any standing water. Quite clever stuff.

Wasn't the March just more of a PR stunt than a genuine attempt at building a 6 wheeler?
 
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